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re: No longer the clot shot, it’s now the death shot

Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by lab102
Member since Aug 2022
44 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:54 pm to
Moron
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3998 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:01 pm to
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Moron


You have one post yet you deride my support of this sponge deciding to kill himself.

That’s harsh.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4955 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:02 pm to
onmymedicalgrid

Not a Dr but I have a question.You seem to put great faith in studies,articles,journals.But in the Fauci controlled medical system we are in how can anyone have faith in any study concerning Covid,treatment protocols,etc.
Fauci has corrupted every aspect of our medical system-CDC,FDA,NIH,universities.
I seriously doubt any university or medical school is going to publish any studies that go against the narrative.If they do there goes their grant money..Besides that, medical journals rely heavily on advertising dollars from Big Pharma,are they going to publish studies that displease Pfizer,Moderna?I doubt it.

It works the same way with studies on nutrition.These studies are usually funded by food companies.Invariably,the studies show results desired by the entity financing the studies.

I suppose surgical journals would be much more reliable ,for example, comparing one technique vs another,post op protocols,etc.

Hopefully when Fauci is gone the medical world will return to some semblance of honesty and reliability,but I don’t have a lot faith.The medical-industrial complex seems firmly entrenched.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:04 pm to
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Fauci has corrupted every aspect of our medical system


It’s not Fauci. The entire system has been captured by the industry it pretends to regulate.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:10 pm to
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No longer the clot shot, it’s now the death shot by boxcar willieThat link is the same as saying that people wear blue shirts, people who have worn blue shirts have died, therefore wearing blue shirts causes death. The logic is all messed up. Billions of people have gotten the shot, many people who have gotten the shot have had Strokes, therefore getting the shot cause of Strokes. I didn't read the link but like all these kind of links and so-called studies have faulty logic.


You used the word “logic” twice here but haven’t used it once in reality.
Posted by lab102
Member since Aug 2022
44 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:23 pm to
I meant him and anyone else who took the clot shot. Unknown long term effects and idiots are willing to risk their lives. Please. The deserve what comes next.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:03 am to
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You seem dismissive of primary care and our intellect. I'm not your average PCP.

Not sure what you are doing here. I have a sister and wife in primary care. Your specialty has zero bearing on my calling out your posts in this thread.
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I did this because I wanted to and was in the top 3% of my class. I won numerous academic awards in med school, most notably in microbiology/microanatomy. I've been honored by our state EMS services for my contributions to emergency medicine and coordinating early stroke intervention with UAMS via telemed on our trucks. I'm the local medical director for 2 of the largest defense contractors in the nation and they certainly seem to appreciate my insight.

Oh goodness; thanks for detailing your bondafides. Don’t tear your rotator cuff patting yourself on the back.
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I'm not the person you want to get in an intellectual pissing match with

Dude we are having a message board debate. Relax. Not sure what you are overcompensating for.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:13 am to
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The literature can be wrong and has been quite often over the years.

The literature is never right or wrong. The data is never right or wrong. The data is the data. It’s up to the reader to be objective and draw the necessary conclusions. The most useless part of any paper IMO is the Discussion section, where the authors attempt to do that part for you.
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Those of use with exceptional clinical skills and judgement tend to notice these trends earlier than most and are often derided for not trusting the literature.

Another post of yours laden in hubris. Humility would serve you well.
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My stance is that the vaccine isn't nearly as safe as they say it is and we still have no clue what the long term side effects will be.

I agree with your stance from my appraisal of the current data. NOT from my appraisal of my very small subset of patients which may or may not be representative of the population at large.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:15 am to
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A lot of people can do that.

Not around these parts.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 1:33 am to
People are always dropping like flies. There's seven or eight billion people on the planet and all of them going to drop like a fly at some point in their lives. As for me I'd like to postpone that for as long as possible that's why I get the covid shots. I've had four phizers and one moderna. I'd like to get that other one also if I should get the chance. Better to be safe than sorry and it's pretty easy to get the shots
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 1:35 am to
When I see people drop from not getting the covid shot I don't say they deserve it. But it would have been just so easy for them to get the shot and they would still be alive today.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 6:55 am to
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how can anyone have faith in any study concerning Covid,treatment protocols,etc.


The point of a study isn't to have faith in the study. The point of academic research is to publish results of specific outcomes with clearly defined methodological choices. In this case, it's clinical results re: covid-19 treatment modalities.

We do this so that it is reproducible (with caveats - e.g. my hospitals aren't going to have the same pt pop as a rural hospital in Kansas, so results aren't entirely generalizable). If the thousands of covid-19 studies detailing effective treatments (incl. vaccines) were wildly inaccurate it wouldn't be lay people noticing first - it would be other researchers.

Because what's the alternative? That every person publishing in this space for the last decade has systematically chosen to lie? That's insane. You can barely get clinicians in one specialty to sort of agree on one thing, good luck getting cardiology and nephrology and ID to agree on something this high profile, especially if there were easy money in proving something were wrong.
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3587 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:02 am to
Go read some article interviews of Funeral owners and crematory owners and see what they are currently saying.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:08 am to
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I've gotten all of them and I'll get them every year from here on out along with the flu shot


RIP
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13901 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:11 am to
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I've gotten all of them and I'll get them every year from here on out along with the flu shot


Solid plan
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:49 am to
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Because what's the alternative?

Apparently it’s thinking you’re such a free thinker with impeccable clinical skills that you don’t need to stay current on what’s going on outside your clinic…..
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 8:58 am to
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especially if there were easy money in proving something were wrong.


There is negative one frillion dollars in proving the emperor has no clothes.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 9:08 am to
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My stance is that the vaccine isn't nearly as safe or effective as they say it is and we still have no clue what the long term side effects will be.


FIFY

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This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 9:09 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:17 am to
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There is negative one frillion dollars in proving the emperor has no clothes.


You badly misjudge how much AZ would pay to prove that Pfizer harmed people.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:22 am to
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Trump’s shot! You knew they would blame it on Trump when the facts about the vaccines came to light
So a shite ton of folks right on this board praised Trump for getting us the vaccine so quickly but now he gets zero blame?

That makes perfect sense.
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