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re: No longer the clot shot, it’s now the death shot

Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:05 am to
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
2868 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 7:05 am to
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just as guilty as the other MFers who pushed it and mandated it


That is retarded. The MANDATES are what made it so controversial. Nobody cared either way until BIDEN started firing people who didn’t want it. Get a clue dumbass!
Posted by PollyDawg
Member since Jul 2021
1103 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:34 am to
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LMAO at the Federal BI.


Maybe so..I was thinking FauXi..
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1375 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:25 pm to
Did I just coin a new word when Deaducation came to mind while reading your post...hmmm.
I'd pay my kid to go to another school like Xavier before going along with that bs.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21678 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:28 pm to
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That is retarded.


If he's posting anything about Trump that's a safe bet.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 1:41 pm to
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If it’s as bad as you say it is—study and publish it. Stop hoarding all this useful information.


Ask & ye shall receive:

UK All Cause Mortality by Vax Status (age & population stratified) 1/21-5/22


It's not to late to switch career paths.. if you are truly interested in our nations health.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Ask & ye shall receive:

I asked for his data. I’ve already seen the UK data linked.
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It's not to late to switch career paths

It is, but thanks for your concern anyways. I’m good.
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if you are truly interested in our nations health.

Idgaf about our nation’s health. I care about my patient’s health. That’s what matters.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72867 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:04 pm to
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onmymedicalgrind


I feel for your patients.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1529 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:14 pm to
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Never felt as good as I do now. Got the shot almost 2 years ago. Focus on real world problems besides a safe vaccine. Focus on obesity, alcohol addiction, crime, gambling addiction, etc.


Party line smoke and mirrors, eh?


"Never felt as good as I do now"???

Damn, you make it sound like it's the fountain of youth. You do realize that everyone smells your bull shite, right?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:16 pm to
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You do realize that everyone smells your bull shite, right?


His bullshite being that he got the shot and feels fine?
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19347 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:17 pm to
We are a collective 20 shots behind now with the third booster being pushed by Pfizer and not one slope sick diagnoses between us. Been back working in offices and schools since end of summer 2020 too.

No death either. Weird
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:52 pm to
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I asked for his data. I’ve already seen the UK data linked.


So you’ve seen the empirical data, but you want the anecdotal data that he already provided & of which you belittled.

You continue to impress.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:03 pm to
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So you’ve seen the empirical data,

Yes, I have seen the published data because, well, it’s published for all to see.
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but you want the anecdotal data that he already provided & of which you belittled.

I belittled it because I think he’s talking out his arse. But if what he’s saying is true, he needs to publish the data so we can see it. This isn’t very complex—try to keep up.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:31 pm to
Grasshopper, you need some IQ points & a long haul of self awareness.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:42 pm to
Thanks I’ll keep that in mind.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 5:49 pm to
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I belittled it because I think he’s talking out his arse. But if what he’s saying is true, he needs to publish the data so we can see it. This isn’t very complex—try to keep

If I posted numbers, you'd believe them? Publish data? You obviously aren't as busy as I am and I could just pull them out of my arse like everyone else does. We've had 12 COVID deaths (maybe 13) in a practice with a little over 13k different pt's seen in the last 2 years. We've had 32 pt's that have died within one week of the second vaccine or a booster from various thrombotic events. Have 3 currently with AML. All diagnosed within 2 weeks of each other and all double vaccinated an boosted. My partner has one. I have had two in the previous 19 years. There have been numerous others die within a month of the second shot or vaccine. Often times we don't know vaccine status until later, because people aren't asking when they receive acute care. I do and note it in the chart and which one they got.

Not only are we seeing an alarming increase in dvt's, PE's, acute coronary events, CVA's, they are harder to treat and often times don't respond to Eliquis or Xarelto. I have more pt's on coumadin than I have in years after those medicines failed and only once we got their INR around 3 did we start seeing resolution of thrombus. Have not seen this in unvaccinated patients.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:14 pm to
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If I posted numbers, you'd believe them? Publish data? You obviously aren't as busy as I am and I could just pull them out of my arse like everyone else does.

Let me ask you a question. As a practicing physician, how do you stay current as treatments/medications are always changing and evolving. Do you subscribe to any journals? Review articles? Do you just BS your CME duties? Seems like your level of complete skepticism and dismissal of all studies is dangerous.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:31 pm to
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. As a practicing physician, how do you stay current as treatments/medications are always changing and evolving. Do you subscribe to any journals? Review articles? Do you just BS your CME duties? Seems like your level of complete skepticism and dismissal of all studies is dangerous.


Journals, CME. I don't dismiss all studies, but I am skeptical of findings that contradict what I am seeing clinically. Anyone who doesn't isn't as smart as they think they are. You never want to be the first on the bandwagon or the last one off. You seem to think more of intellect than it seems you possess. Almost conditioned to regurgitate what your handlers/bosses say. I'm a free thinker and get paid well for my expertise and opinions. Several large corporations, numerous politicians, and other physicians.

Perhaps our individual experiences have simply been different. How many pt's do you see per day? Inpt/outpt or both. Inpatient experiences can vary greatly from outpt. Continue to drink the Kool-Aid. I'll continue to be my own man and practice in the manner I always have.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:41 pm to
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Journals, CME. I don't dismiss all studies, but I am skeptical of findings that contradict what I am seeing clinically. Anyone who doesn't isn't as smart as they think they are.

It’s great to be skeptical but there’s got to be a next step. If not, you eventually just end up being the physician that does what he “feels” despite clear evidence to the contrary. Study what you are doing and it’s effects on your patients. You don’t necessarily need a massive research arm to do this, albeit I do understand this might not be practical for everyone in every setting. But, for better or for worse, it’s the only way to convince others of what you are seeing.
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Almost conditioned to regurgitate what your handlers/bosses say. I'm a free thinker and get paid well for my expertise and opinions.

I’m a free thinker that collects PROMs in 100% of my new patients and 100% of my postop patients. Everything I do is tracked from OR time to inpatient stay to amount or narcotic pills. I know if what I am doing works. Free thinking is dangerous without rigorously monitoring what it’s doing to your patients.
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Perhaps our individual experiences have simply been different. How many pt's do you see per day?

I’m sure they are. You sound like you are in primary care; I am not. Hard to compare clinic numbers, but the absolute most I’ll see in a full day is 70. Usually closer to 50.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:50 pm to
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onmymedicalgrind


Additionally, I feel no need to convince you one way or the other on the vaccine. I feel the net harm far outweighs any benefit initially seen with the first 2 doses. The boosters should've never been given. You can continue to believe the false narrative that you have taken as gospel. I've learned to be cautious of anything new in medicine. Being cautious does not equal uninformed. Plenty of people on here know me IRL. I have nothing to gain by seeking attention by spreading false information. I have not prevented anyone from getting the shot. If they want to hear my concerns, I will discuss it with them, but I tell them that they need to make the choice they feel is right for them.

But if you are still 100% on board with the shot being safe and effective, you are the one that is dangerous and uninformed. What specialty are you in that makes you such an expert?
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:57 pm to
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Focus on real world problems

Like the border? Inflation? Election integrity? Oh wait- no, never mind. I’m glad you got vaccinated though.
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