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re: No longer the clot shot, it’s now the death shot

Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:24 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:24 am to
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Yes, but he does have some culpability here. He pushed it despite his base.
They don't want to talk about that.

And let's not pretend his base wasn't lauding how he was the only person who could cut through the BS red tape to get us a vaccine in less than 1 year. His base was giving him all the credit for that, and most of the same folks who post here was posting that same shite. They didn't start complaining in mass about the side effects and rushed vaccine until after the fact with zero self awareness that they were praising the same exact thing before.
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by DawgRebelinAL
Confederate States
Member since Feb 2022
524 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:48 am to
I don't see why that is a diagnostic failure. The baseline for maladies is relatively flat. Add a variable and the baseline is all out of skew. That's not hard and while it isn't proof, it does beg questions.

Kinda like how every model of voting patterns since before WWII were all WRONG on election night and Ohio and Florida voting on the same side did not result in a winner....
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:02 am to
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You badly misjudge how much AZ would pay to prove that Pfizer harmed people.


You’re dumb as frick. AstraZeneca isn’t paying anyone to prove Pfizer harmed people. They’re all in the same boat. No one is pulling the plug in the boat they’re in.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:15 am to
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I don't see why that is a diagnostic failure. The baseline for maladies is relatively flat. Add a variable and the baseline is all out of skew. That's not hard and while it isn't proof, it does beg questions.

There’s never just “one variable” added. Health and outcomes are complex. But then again, when you are a hammer, everything will look like a nail to you.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:28 am to
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Dude we are having a message board debate. Relax. Not sure what you are overcompensating for.


I got a little carried away.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:33 am to
All good
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 1:13 pm to
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So a shite ton of folks right on this board praised Trump for getting us the vaccine so quickly but now he gets zero blame? That makes perfect sense.


He gets credit for removing the red tape.

He gets no criticism for the vaccine as he didn’t develop it.

He pushed it based on outright lies by the developers.

This isn’t a difficult concept.
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:09 pm to
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He gets credit for removing the red tape.

I mean, knowing what we know now…maybe some of the red tape as far as drug/vaccine R&D isn’t all totally without purpose?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:17 pm to
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I mean, knowing what we know now…maybe some of the red tape as far as drug/vaccine R&D isn’t all totally without purpose?


That is a rather large caveat.

I mean, LooneyfromLA and pals said the world was going to end. Fear mongering was at a fever pitch. VERY few of us were against the policies that were put in place at the time.

As for what we know now...we know (according to their OWN documents) that drug companies lied profusely concerning the efficacy of their product.

Shills like shell gloss over that fact, and they are also disingenuous in neglecting to mention context...as do you (as illustrated by your quote):
quote:

maybe some of the red tape as far as drug/vaccine R&D isn’t all totally without purpose?
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:35 pm to
Man, you clearly didn’t understand the point of my post one bit. Could have just asked me to clarify, I guess?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12202 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:39 pm to
Covid and ‘The Vaccine’ have ravaged obese people. If this didn’t cause anyone to change their ways nothing will.
Posted by LatherZap
Member since Mar 2022
1371 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:53 pm to
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let's not pretend his base wasn't lauding how he was the only person who could cut through the BS red tape to get us a vaccine in less than 1 year.


bullshite. One might argue he has some culpability, but Trump supporters were NOT excited about a "vaccine". We, more than any other base, felt the covid hysteria was unwarranted.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19141 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

No longer the clot shot, it’s now the death shot

While doctors advocating early treatment with therapeutics like Ivermectin and HCQ were/are being mocked and censored.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112886 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:27 pm to
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bullshite. One might argue he has some culpability, but Trump supporters were NOT excited about a "vaccine". We, more than any other base, felt the covid hysteria was unwarranted.
Never said they were excited about the vaccine, not sure why you're moving the goalposts.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Man, you clearly didn’t understand the point of my post one bit. Could have just asked me to clarify, I guess?


My apologies.

Sooooo...

Care to clarify?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:37 pm to
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They’re all in the same boat.


No Pharma company would benefit at all if the technology of another was proven harmful, and they covered it up?

I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55560 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:05 pm to
"I found some data that supports my stupid narrative."lol
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 7:43 pm to
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My apologies. Sooooo... Care to clarify?

To put it simply, why would you credit someone for removing the barriers or “red tape” when it looks like the vaccine roll out could have been less rushed/used some safeguards? Again, like I said earlier, I know this is a hindsight is 20/20 take, but my point is it now seems like the red tape actually has a purpose.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28160 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:44 pm to
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Not around these parts.



Now there’s a fresh take. We haven’t had a “this whole forum is dumb and I’m smart” post since Hank’s latest offering, in whatever thread he happens to be posting in.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:49 pm to
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They don't want to talk about that.


Let's talk about you reading Dr. Birx's recent book. Redfield, Fauci, Collins & Birx lied and manipulated data.
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