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re: Newly released 9/11 footage of Pentagon: Airliner or missile?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:02 am to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:02 am to Cooter Davenport
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There has yet to be a logical explanation of WTCB7. None.
Yeah, there has! You zombies keep repeating that, but it’s just not true at all.
7 had a big gash cut in its side by one of the falling twin towers. That started a fire. The building had a poorly designed sprinkler system that didn’t function and as a result it burned all day/night. The fire weakened the structure. It’s really not a strange deal at all.
True dat - I wasn't even going to try dignifying these idiots with commonly know facts and common sense.
I spent several years arguing the evidence, interpretations, dynamics, logic of this tragedy after it happened.
At that time it seemed a good idea to try dispelling stupid conspiracies - but none of them were interested in discussion, debate, learning - they had a pet 'gotcha' factoid they had read somewhere and that was as far as their limited intelligence/integrity would allow them to proceed.
Now, after 15 years, it is a fool's errand to enter a 'serious' discussion/rebuttal with them. These new idiots are even dumber than the ones that popped up during the first couple of years.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:05 am to El Magnifico
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9/11 Simplified
An extraordinary theory
Cancer link is cancer.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:06 am to GnashRebel
quote:This, this, this and this.
. The Pentagon is huge and the impact is far away from the camera. It makes the aircraft look small but it isn't. And it is too pixilated to actually determine any shape.
Looks like the plane hit around one of the 'corners'. And each of the equal sides of the building is a fifth of mile damn near it. That potato camera wouldnt have picked up a missile at all.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:08 am to the LSUSaint
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Its 5 stories basically...
And I was more alluding to the poster saying it was doing 500 mph.
You see, at some point, a commercial craft, because of its weight, has catastrophic wing failures when trying to maneuver sharply at high speeds.
Point being, you aren't driving in at 500 mph and leveling off quickly to get parallel, it would shear the wings, basically.
I'm notbssying it wasn't the plane that hit, I was saying it wasn't as that poster described.
Let me quote from the NTSB report:
"The airplane accelerated to approximately 460 knots (530 miles per hour) at impact with the Pentagon. The time of impact was 9:37:45 AM."
LINK
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:This is just total bullshite. It wasn't a precise hit in the first place. They hit short at a shallow angle and skipped in. I hold a Part 61 pilot license.
if that plane was doing 500 mph, there is NO novice pilot that could make such a precise hit on a 4 story building in the middle of and area with other buildings, trees, etc...
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:09 am to kingbob
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Newly released 9/11 footage of Pentagon: Airliner or missile?
That's not new. You can find this video on YouTube posted 4 years ago.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:21 am to TDsngumbo
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One of the things that truthers point to is the fact that the exact section of the Pentagon that was hit by the plane had just recently been renovated and reinforced to protect against terrorist truck bombs. So it was an extremely strong section that was hit.
Seems like this would work against truthers and those in this thread claiming a missile. If insiders did this, then why not pick a part of the Pentagon less vulnerable?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:22 am to kingbob
Definitely not a missile.
No missile in our arsenal comes in at that angle. None. Damn near horizontal, and almost on the ground?
Our missiles descend. That looked like it was on the ground, or skimming the ground. Like a plane would do while landing or coming in hot.
This video destroys, forever, the missile theory.
Thank you for posting.
No missile in our arsenal comes in at that angle. None. Damn near horizontal, and almost on the ground?
Our missiles descend. That looked like it was on the ground, or skimming the ground. Like a plane would do while landing or coming in hot.
This video destroys, forever, the missile theory.
Thank you for posting.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:30 am to skrayper
Can't catch cancer with your head in the sand amirite?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:32 am to ngadawg250
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Seems like this would work against truthers and those in this thread claiming a missile. If insiders did this, then why not pick a part of the Pentagon less vulnerable?
A cruise missile is about the size of a 20 ft long telephone pole. It would barely be picked up on that grainy video if at all.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:40 am to kingbob
quote:A) Not "newly released"
Newly released 9/11 footage of Pentagon: Airliner or missile?
B) It is a 757. It is the same 757 Barbara Olson was flying on as she said "Good-Bye" to her husband, the same 757 many many many many bystanders saw on approach to the catastrophe, the same 757 ATC simultaneously lost tracking of on their screens.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:41 am to Roaad
What if the missile was launched from a truck or some other vehicle?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:45 am to upgrayedd
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So what happened to all the people in that plane that didn't crash into the Pentagon?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:50 am to Cooter Davenport
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That shitty late ‘90s technology “video” has a frame rate of about 1/second. The frame rate is so low relative to the speed of the plane that it effectively misses it. You can’t take away much from video of that low of IQ and slow of frame rate. It’s like a blurry 1970s photo of “Bigfoot”. If someone shot it at 60 fps in 1080p and it looked like that, I’d be on board with you. But what you have with this crap video is essentially an ink blot test. Sorry.
I agree but my question is why is that the only video we have ever seen from the Pentagon crash? The Pentagon is the most secure building on the planet and there have to be hundreds, if not thousands, of videos from this incident. Why haven’t they at least released a better clip of the plane approaching the Pentagon when it would have instantly shut up all of the 9/11 truthers?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:57 am to Brosef Stalin
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What if the missile was launched from a truck or some other vehicle?
What if it was a ground missile?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:00 pm to lsu480
There's a gas station across the street from the Pentagon that the FBI seized security camera tape from almost immediately after. There are plenty of angles of this attack, not just from Pentagon cameras.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:01 pm to kingbob
Did the terrorists shrink the plane during flight?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:02 pm to Brosef Stalin
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There's a gas station across the street from the Pentagon that the FBI seized security camera tape from almost immediately after.
Rumor has it that it was owned by Saudi Arabians...
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:02 pm to GetCocky11
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A plane. A flying object with passengers and pilots and hijackers. It said "American" on the side.
Will agree if it's a 5 pax one
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:03 pm to lsu480
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The Pentagon is the most secure building on the planet and there have to be hundreds, if not thousands, of videos from this incident.
Even back then there probably were a lot of surveillance cameras in the buildings areas and any areas of entrance from the ground. Long distance vids of the general grounds, maybe not so much.
That said, how many does one need to show an airplane crashing into the side of a building in order to tell that its..well..an airplane crashing into the side of a building?
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