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re: New theory on Wuhan Virus being floated by epidemiologists
Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:28 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:28 am to ShortyRob
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maybe it DID hit nursing homes but until they were looking for something else, they wouldn't have thought much of it other than "Bad flu season".
Not likely. Apparently, the lung CT scans are pretty distinctive for Covid-19. It would be easy to go back and check if they thought it was a possibility.
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:32 am to LakeCharles
quote:we know too much about the virus now to think that it swept through the general public, with 40% of our adults being obese and having countless health issues, and we just suffered from a few bad coughs for a couple of weeks. The rest of the cases that make up the bad flu season can be tracked to actual flu strains.
Not likely. Apparently, the lung CT scans are pretty distinctive for Covid-19. It would be easy to go back and check if they thought it was a possibility.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:36 am to Pecker
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So I’m to believe that the virus was in China in October and in the US in November but didn’t make its way to S Korea? And also believe that it made its way through the US in December but we just brushed it off, no big deal?
We know that the symptoms are pretty mild in 80% to 90% of the cases. The other 10% to 20% need medical care, with maybe 5% requiring at least O2, and some need a respirator. These statistics make it unlikely that the virus has been in the US for very long, otherwise, hospital ICUs would have been slammed as they have been in Italy. Also, there is another thread that says 98% of the Covid-19 tests have come back negative so far.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 2:37 am to Pecker
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And also believe that it made its way through the US in December but we just brushed it off, no big deal?
The USA is different from every country on this planet in education level, demographics, social customs (especially "social distancing"), and this will be argued, but also health care.
People here can get medicine to self quarantine and "ride it out" without permission. There are also a lot of folks still left in this country that don't go to the doctor at the slightest sign of an ailment.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 2:38 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:33 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Eli Goldfinger
Is there an updated ILI Graph through Feb?
Assuming you own the data and it's not coming from the media
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:39 am to TigerAxeOK
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If this shite turns out to be correct, we must write our representatives and demand that the media be held responsible and punished accordingly for the mass hysteria, fear mongering and collapse of the market which resulted in the loss of tens of billions of dollars in American 401k's
Not to mention $58b in Gov resources.
If true, this is the big OOPS in us history. And you're right, most of which is media driven
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:48 am to Pecker
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I find it hard to believe that this thing was making its way through the US in November/December and didn't hit a nursing home until March
Nursing homes are usually pretty good about keeping things like this out. Washington is a horrible baseline.
quote:no one is saying that. Were simply not testing that much which is keeping the numbers low.
That said, it's even harder to believe that only 2500-3000 people in the US have it right now.
quote:perhaps the mortality rate is not as bad as you think it is?
hospitals aren't overflowing nor are old folks and morbidly obese dropping like flies
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 3:54 am to Pecker
quote:the stories from this thread are precisely what the CDC says to expect.
with 40% of our adults being obese and having countless health issues, and we just suffered from a few bad coughs for a couple of weeks
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The rest of the cases that make up the bad flu season can be tracked to actual flu strains.
But they are NOT tracking back to flu strains when tested. That's the whole point.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:01 am to Eli Goldfinger
I'd like to see that chart in another 2-3 weeks, but if that's correct, that's great news.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:13 am to Eli Goldfinger
Wife had flu like symptoms back in January but tested negative. We thought the test had to have been wrong but now think she had CV. Never seen her that sick. However I didn’t get what she had even living with her.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:21 am to Slevin7
quote:tell him that would be December of 2018, when the little bastards decided to develop the damn thing
Dude.
Links please.
I’m arguing w some asshat who is telling me China found out about this in December.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:36 am to Eli Goldfinger
I have been saying this all along. I am in hospitalER's across the Country and strayed seeing this "weird respitorything" in December...Nobody knew what to call it because it tested negative for flu.....
I am convinced I had it in late January and early February...this is not new at all.
I am convinced I had it in late January and early February...this is not new at all.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Wuhan Bat-Eater Plague
Finally someone with the correct name
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:40 am to Ace Midnight
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I don't know any reasonable person who doesn't concede this is likely. I think the dates it spread from China are murkier, but I think it was here by Thanksgiving. Hell, I think I had it.
I had an upper respiratory viral infection about two months ago with a wicked headache for a couple of days. Negative on flu. No antibiotics. Took two weeks to kick. That would be something if it was Coronavirus.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:59 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Part of this is based on the major (very major) spike in influenza cases in Washington state.
Also, there was an unusually high number of flu-like respiratory cases which tested negative for influenza throughout the country.
Interesting coincidence then that all genetic profiling of coronavirus cases in the US is traced to strains of the virus that were in Asia by the New Year at the earliest, and it was most likely a couple of weeks after that.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:00 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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I’ve never been unable to clear my chest like this in my life.
Same here, try a humidifier, only thing that has helped my mucous breakup.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:07 am to LakeCharles
Yes but if you had mild symptoms it wouldn't show up on a CT scan. Not only that, they wouldn't even do a CT scan on you, at best a chest Xray would be done and a flu and strep test.
It would be interesting if we still had access to some of those negative flu tests to be able and go back and check for the corona virus.
It would be interesting if we still had access to some of those negative flu tests to be able and go back and check for the corona virus.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:12 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:Perhaps, but would viral genetic variance not demonstrate it one way or another?
The 2019-2020 flu season has seemed particularly bad. Perhaps this was driven - at least in part - by Wuhan.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:21 am to Volvagia
If it was spreading in the US since last year, they wouldn’t have been able to genetically map out the spread like this:
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