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re: New sworn depositions in support of Blasey Ford!

Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:24 am to
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:24 am to
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Go ahead and pick which exception to hearsay you’re going to use to get over that hurdle. Then we’ll talk.


Explain why this is hearsay and we will talk.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:24 am to
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the testimony isn't offered for the truth of the matter asserted


How much do you want to bet this is exactly what it will be used for? Hell it is already being reported as proof that Kavanaugh is guilty in some articles.

Our society, journalists, politicians, political process, and federal government are completely and totally broken at every level.

We are trying to investigate and corroborate a 30 year old unproveable accusation, in which the accuser refuses to testify or even appear in public, never before reported or uncovered as a basis to ruin a man's life and disqualify him from an office he is by all other accounts more qualified than almost anyone else to hold.

And further, this investigation is seen as a massive victory and hill to die on for plenty of people in this country who only see politics as a 0 sum good VS evil game where the ends always justify the means and ultimate power is the only worthy goal regardless of how it affects anyone else.

Progressive group think trumping reason and logic and a massive sect of our population refusing to be impartial about situations is leading us on a one way collusion course with armed conflict.

I am not even asking you to say Kavanaugh did not do what he is accused of. Can you admit there is a reasonable doubt at this point that the accusations are untrue?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:25 am
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:25 am to
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I've been wondering where this therapist is. Why hasn't this person been named and asked about it?

because that would not be helpful towards the goal of delaying the nomination vote

Duh
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:25 am
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:25 am to
Where did you go to law school?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:26 am to
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All of the depositions simply say that Ford told them about it at some point.

This is the definition of hearsay


And? Our justice system is built on this type of thing.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63508 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:27 am to
What I find interesting is that Ford told some people about the incident well before Kavanaugh was a nominee to the Court. That takes away a political motivation
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:27 am to
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Are we going to see this email?

absolutely, she'll have it handy when she comes in to give her sworn statement

This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:27 am to
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So Ford and one of them met at a pizzeria? WTF everything about this woman is weird as frick.


I'm not convinced she is real at this point
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:28 am to
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What I find interesting is that Ford told some people about the incident well before Kavanaugh was a nominee to the Court. That takes away a political motivation


I mean, she's said the whole time she told a therapist 6 years ago.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:29 am to
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What I find interesting is that Ford told some people about the incident well before Kavanaugh was a nominee to the Court. That takes away a political motivation


But now it's Kavanaugh? Only after he's nominated? Seems convenient.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48947 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:30 am to
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New sworn depositions in support of Blasey Ford!


All statements of "Ford told me" etc...



These are completely worthless
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:31 am to
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What I find interesting is that Ford told some people about the incident well before Kavanaugh was a nominee to the Court. That takes away a political motivation


Whats more interesting is you believe this lady
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48947 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:32 am to
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The point of this is to refute the criticism that this was all made up just to derail this confirmation. If she told others about it years ago, at a time when there was no potential Supreme Court nomination, then the argument that she just made it up now is undermined. So the relevance is not whether the statement was true, just that the statement was made at a time when this nomination was not possibly known.



I thought from day 1 we all knew that she allegedly told a therapist something back in 2012
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68235 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:33 am to
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One of them says she specificallyd named BK in an email several years ago.
No, the name was mentioned after Kennedy's announced retirement.
Posted by Nguyener
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Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:33 am to
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What I find interesting is that Ford told some people about the incident well before Kavanaugh was a nominee to the Court

LINK?

The therapist, her friends, etc... All just have statements saying she thinks she was assaulted by a guy at a school who is now something related to government.

Kavanaugh's name never came up until at the earliest there was a vacancy in the court and at the latest when he was actually named.

Can you show me a link proving otherwise?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36037 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:33 am to
I think the woman fantasizes these things and needs to talk to a real shrink not a Congressional Committee.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:33 am to
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The guy with the supposed email naming Kav before the nomination is interesting


That’s the one piece of interesting information in all four statements.

We still don’t have a sworn statement from the star.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:34 am to
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Our justice system is built on this type of thing.




Eh not really. Theres a reason hearsay is not admissable in most cases.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112630 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:34 am to
Oh my fricking god, did anyone actually read the declarations?

Telling her kids baseball coach about being sexually assaulted? A friend from a Pizza Place, what the frick? And the pizza friend's name looks like a goldennugget invention to boot.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:34 am to
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I mean, she's said the whole time she told a therapist 6 years ago.


We do not have the name of the therapist nor the notes from the therapist despite WaPo and DiFi having seen them.
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