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re: New sworn depositions in support of Blasey Ford!
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:13 am to Nguyener
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:13 am to Nguyener
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It is literally the definition of it. exceptions to the hearsay rule It fits none of those.
It isn’t an exception because it isn’t hearsay. You are looking at the wrong article. Dipshit.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:13 am to TBoy
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Absolutely. This isn’t hearsay.
Blacks Legal Dictionary disagrees with you.
LINK
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What is HEARSAY?
A term applied to that species of testimony given by a witness whorelates, not what he knows personally, but what others have told him, or what he hasheard said by others. Ilopt v. Utah, 110 U. S. 574, 4 Sup. Ct. 202. 28 L. Ed. 202; Morellv. Morell, 157 Ind. 170, 00 N. E. 1002; Stockton v. Williams, 1 Doug. (Mich.) 570;People v. Kraft, 01 Hun, 474, 30 N. Y. Supp. 1034.Hearsay evidence is that which does not derive its value solely from the credit of thewitness, but rests mainly on the veracity and competency of other persons. The verynature of the evidence shows its weakness, and it is admitted only in specified casesfrom necessity.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:13 am to dcbl
So Ford and one of them met at a pizzeria? WTF everything about this woman is weird as frick.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:14 am to Nguyener
quote:The argument he is making is that the testimony isn't offered for the truth of the matter asserted, a requirement for it to be heresay, but rather offered as a rebuttal that the accusation was only contrived after Kavanaugh was nominated.
It is literally the definition of it.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:14 am to TBoy
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So the relevance is not whether the statement was true, just that the statement was made
Did you even read the affidavits, Low-TBoy?
- Koehler states Ford didn’t say it was Kav until AFTER he was nominated
- Mazon had to contact Ford 10 days ago to tell HER what she told him; of note, Ford never mentioned Kav. that’s convenient, don’t you think?
- Finally, White states Ford never mentioned Kav.
So the only person who Ford mentioned Kav’s name to prior to the nomination/allegations going public about 10 days ago was her husband, who is forced to support his lying wife.
This is circumstantial proof to you?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:17 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:15 am to TBoy
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Are you making that up?
No.
quote:
Have you read the statements?
I read the relevant quotes, yes.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:15 am to PearlJam
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The argument he is making is that the testimony isn't offered for the truth of the matter asserted, a requirement for it to be heresay, but rather offered as a rebuttal that the accusation was only contrived after Kavanaugh was nominated.
Finally, someone has a clue what they are talking about.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:17 am to Antonio Moss
Some people make up new lies today, others tell the same lie for decades. It becomes part of the mythology they create for themselves. Muh Unwanted HS Breast Groping.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:19 am to TBoy
I'm just pointing out the definition of hearsay. Most are concerned with whether this happened or not and these recorded statements would be considered hearsay if proffered for that reason. Even trying to backdoor them around the hearsay rule, they aren't particularly compelling.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:19 am to Homesick Tiger
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Hasn't it been reported that she told her shrink back in 2012 it happened? That bucket doesn't seem to be carrying any water either.
I've been wondering where this therapist is. Why hasn't this person been named and asked about it?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:20 am to TBoy
quote:a downloadable pdf is in the article linked in my OP, has all 4
I won’t comment about the content of the statements until we see them in full.
Have fun
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:20 am to TBoy
Go ahead and pick which exception to hearsay you’re going to use to get over that hurdle. Then we’ll talk.
Exceptions to hearsay
Exceptions to hearsay
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:21 am to dcbl
Does anyone find it odd that she did not mention it to anyone for more than 30 years, and then all of a sudden she couldn't stop talking about it to casual acquaintances--mentioning it to her kid's baseball coach and somebody walking their dog? Seems odd.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:21 am to NYNolaguy1
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(c) Hearsay.
“Hearsay” means a statement that: (1) the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing; and (2) a party offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement.
The key to hearsay is what you are doing with the statement. If you are using it to prove that the statement is true, it’s hearsay. For example, “She said he touched her, so that proves he touched her.”
However, if you are using a statement for another purpose, such as to refute a claim that the allegations were recently concocted, it isn’t hearsay. For example, “She didn’t make this up last week, she told me the same thing years ago.”
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:22 am to Jon Ham
quote:Are we going to see this email?
she didn’t invent the allegation after the nomination.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:22 am to TBoy
Where’d you get your law degree?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:23 am to NYNolaguy1
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quote:
Absolutely. This isn’t hearsay.
Blacks Legal Dictionary disagrees with you
Low T Boy already in lockstep with the talking points, which include obfuscation of generally accepted terms and longstanding protections for the accused
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:23 am to Proximo
quote:He's right about the heresay rule. Where did you get yours?
Where’d you get your law degree?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:23 am to TBoy
You assume they are telling the truth. Typical of your dumbass
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:23 am to TBoy
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the testimony isn't offered for the truth of the matter asserted
How much do you want to bet this is exactly what it will be used for? Hell it is already being reported as proof that Kavanaugh is guilty in some articles.
Our society, journalists, politicians, political process, and federal government are completely and totally broken at every level.
We are trying to investigate and corroborate a 30 year old unproveable accusation, in which the accuser refuses to testify or even appear in public, never before reported or uncovered as a basis to ruin a man's life and disqualify him from an office he is by all other accounts more qualified than anyone else to hold.
And further, this investigation is seen as a massive victory and hill to die on for plenty of people in this country who only see politics as a 0 sum good VS evil game where the ends always justify the means and ultimate power is the only worthy goal regardless of how it affects anyone else.
Progressive group think trumping reason and logic and a massive sect of our population refusing to be impartial about situations is leading us on a one way collusion course with armed conflict.
I am not even asking you to say Kavanaugh did not do what he is accused of. Can you admit there is a reasonable doubt at this point that the accusations are untrue?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:25 am
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