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re: New shooting in Minnesota

Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:36 pm to
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properly


Did they enter the US properly?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
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That matters 0% in the analysis of justifying lethal force.

They don’t care about the law, they care about their feelz
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7230 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
No I'm arguing we don't have a hypothetical. He was armed and put himself in a very stupid situation. 2nd amendment doesn't protect you from suicide by cop.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476296 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
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If you are stupid enough to show up at a tense protest armed and intentionally antagonize the authorities then yes you deserve what happens to you


This has nothing to do with what I was discussing

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How do you not understand this basic premise

I understand the dumb premise and give it the respect it deserves (mockery)

Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2169 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
Absolutely
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
I agree with that.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
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There is nothing in the video that suggests they knew he was completely disarmed prior to shooting


Seems like it would make it much harder to say you saw him reach for a gun that wasn’t there.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128743 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Tons of guys who hate Kyle Rittenhouse.


You trying to set a record for ridiculous analogies in one thread?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476296 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Next time you are out and about and carrying I want you to find a cop or cops performing a traffic stop. Go needlessly get involved in that stop by approaching the cop while blowing your rape whistle & filming with your phone. Physically get in between the cop and the person he has pulled over. Then I want you to physically resist your arrest. Really fight it. After that you can come back and report to us how everything turns out.


None of this justifies deadly force.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7230 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
If I'm on your front how am I going to see whether you don't or not? Only one officer had an angle on the holster, and holsters aren't the only place you can stuff a gun btw.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65274 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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More than that.
bullshite. This debate was settled long ago.
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This one guy deserved to be shot if he was clashing with the Capitol police at the doors?

Sure, but he didn't, so wgaf?

AB was busting through a door window and got shot. I don't feel bad for her either.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476296 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Trump is also using his executive discretion


And it will cost him like it cost Biden.

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I am sorry it offends you

Now you're being silly.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22676 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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You're probably not going to get to 1 million properly and legally deported people in 4 years. Maybe not even 500k

What's the constraint?

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See now you're changing the argument to include hopium.

It was a question. No argument was made. Weird I have to explain that to you, counselor.

You don't think loads of illegals are hanging on here in hopes all the nonsense does as you argue it's doing? That's not hopium. That's logic.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9338 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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. Trump is worse than Obama when it comes to deporting illegals.


When it comes to actual numbers, the data will speak for itself and those numbers aren't out yet for 2025. but as far as tactics and strategy...imo how its being conducted is counter productive in both the short and long term.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128743 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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What's the constraint?


Lawyers.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7230 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:40 pm to
How is it going to cost him? Please let me know.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:40 pm to
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You're probably not going to get to 1 million properly and legally deported people in 4 years. Maybe not even 500k


I’ll be satisfied just to get enough so that the ones we can’t deport have to live in fear of deportation, instead of strutting around like they own the place.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54685 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Then I want you to physically resist your arrest. Really fight it.


If this involves going for a concealed gun, then yes it does
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2169 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:41 pm to
You will likely get shot. I guess your corpse could have the satisfaction of winning a technical legal argument. He deserved to be shot and you would deserve to be shot in that situation. He died for no reason, and you would too, other than sheer stupidity. Stupidity has consequences
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476296 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:43 pm to
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What's the constraint?


Lack of courts/facilities/judges/staff.

I said during the election if Trump was smart his policy would be specifically to allocate resources to this exact issue, in anticipation of the road blocks that I knew would occur when he won and tried to deport large sums of illegals.

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It was a question. No argument was made. Weird I have to explain that to you, counselor.

No you changed the argument to include self-deportation hopium.

Any discussion of that is pure speculation with no factual basis (Which is why I did not include it). It's a hypothetical no top of a hypothetical

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