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re: New shooting in Minnesota

Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22681 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Like, it's not physically possible for our immigration courts to process tens of millions in 4 years.


Nobody said tens of millions. Ten million.

If there's no obstruction in the streets, nothing but cooperation by state/city officials and LEOs, and lots of money to push all the shite through immigration courts, what's the capacity, SFP? Why can't we deport 2.5 million illegals per year, especially given a chunk of them would self-deport if they weren't given false hope by sanctuary laws/cities, etc.
Posted by Thirteen
Member since Dec 2009
146 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Two of them have their guns out at that point.


do you mean the grey jacket guy with the protestor's gun? or someone else
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:30 pm
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2365 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Like, it's not physically possible for our immigration courts to process tens of millions in 4 years.


It’s almost like making it impossible to enforce our immigration laws was part of the plan. And, yet, you only ever seem to hold one side accountable.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7230 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
The amount of violence ICE officers has committed still pales in comparison with the amount of violent illegals have committed. How about all the women who have been raped and murdered? Are they not worth protecting?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Which clearly multiple agents firing at the same time all had the same thought. There was reasonable doubt he was a threat.

If you think “well everyone was shooting so the threat must have been legit” is a sound legal defense, I’ve got some bad news for you….
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2169 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to
If you are stupid enough to show up at a tense protest armed and intentionally antagonize the authorities then yes you deserve what happens to you. How do you not understand this basic premise and try to restrain your autism over the technical right to own a weapon
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128758 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:29 pm to
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And, yet, you only ever seem to hold one side accountable.


Welcome to Poliboard.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33465 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:30 pm to
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Apparently you are a threat just for carrying.


Next time you are out and about and carrying I want you to find a cop or cops performing a traffic stop. Go needlessly get involved in that stop by approaching the cop while blowing your rape whistle & filming with your phone. Physically get in between the cop and the person he has pulled over. Then I want you to physically resist your arrest. Really fight it. After that you can come back and report to us how everything turns out.

Or you could find a group of cops performing a high-risk arrest & interject yourself there.

Report back please
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7230 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:30 pm to
Everyone is firing at the same time because they believed there to be a threat. You think this was premeditated? That's retarded.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1999 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:31 pm to
So then who is “we”?

Regardless, the guy was armed at first contact, and was still fighting cops at the time shots were fired. Whether or not he was disarmed is of no consequence. He was reasonably believed to be a threat to the officers and the public, and use of deadly force was justified. Just like the butch-dyke in the Honda.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:31 pm to
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Once you are told you are under arrest, you are considered under arrest. You can be taken into physical custody before or after having been placed under arrest. If you fight physical custody, you are resisting arrest. If you grab and wrestle the arresting personnel, you have assaulted an officer. If you try to get away, you are evading arrest. If you have done all of these things and failed to inform the authorities that you have a handgun, you have committed a further crime.


No argument here.

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If you try to prevent them disarming you when they are making an arrest and wrestle for control of the weapon, you are considered armed and dangerous.


This is also true, but obviously you don’t have definitive proof that this is what happened in this particular shooting.

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If they shoot you when you have escalated from a simple arrest to being an armed and dangerous person, they were justified

This is not true. Just because a fleeing suspect has been deemed “armed and dangerous” does not mean you can shoot on sight.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:31 pm to
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Tons of guys who hate Kyle Rittenhouse.


What happened to the poli board. Everyone believed in him. Then, today happened.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to
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Word salad to him is a sentence with more than 4 words


The only reason I even added words was to avoid the melts about using the word "democracy"
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Next time you are out and about and carrying I want you to find a cop or cops performing a traffic stop. Go needlessly get involved in that stop by approaching the cop while blowing your rape whistle & filming with your phone. Physically get in between the cop and the person he has pulled over. Then I want you to physically resist your arrest. Really fight it. After that you can come back and report to us how everything turns out. Or you could find a group of cops performing a high-risk arrest & interject yourself there. Report back please


Another person for shooting the Jan 6th protestors I guess.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:33 pm to
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There was reasonable belief that he was a threat.

Reasonable has yet to be determined, no matter how many times you re-type the word.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:33 pm to
I don’t think we view the 2nd amendment the same. You’re inferring intent, and that’s not my angle at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Which is why the leftist policy of allowing them unfettered entrance was always going to win.


THAT is a different discussion.

But yes, this is a direct cost of executive discretion.

Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2169 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm to
Trump is also using his executive discretion, I am sorry it offends you
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm to
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Nobody said tens of millions. Ten million.


You're probably not going to get to 1 million properly and legally deported people in 4 years. Maybe not even 500k

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Why can't we deport 2.5 million illegals per year, especially given a chunk of them would self-deport if they weren't given false hope by sanctuary laws/cities, etc.

See now you're changing the argument to include hopium.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:36 pm to
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One guy carried a .38 revolver.


More than that. But,

This one guy deserved to be shot if he was clashing with the Capitol police at the doors?

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