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re: New shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to ChiGator
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to ChiGator
Anyone lying on a federal employment application should be prosecuted.
Anyone allowing unqualified leftists or otherwise should be held accountable.
This chick isn’t a good example. She probably didn’t tell the whole truth either as you’d expect from a progressive telling such a story.
Anyone allowing unqualified leftists or otherwise should be held accountable.
This chick isn’t a good example. She probably didn’t tell the whole truth either as you’d expect from a progressive telling such a story.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:50 pm to Giantkiller
Hard to tell anything from that one video. Could be a good shoot, could be a bad shoot.
But the left has their useful idiot. It’s vague enough they will claim murder. More useful idiots will hit the streets and shite will pop off. Minnesota is going to burn again. Trump is going to have to declare martial law. Buckle up!
ETA: And I’m all for this deportation effort. But it is a fact that these thousands of new ICE agents aren’t trained or seasoned enough for this level of conflict. Trump has hired a bunch of regular baws gave them a minimal amount of training and turned them loose. Some are ex law enforcement or military, but most are just regular dudes with a hard on, a badge, and a gun. That’s why the left keeps poking the bear with this shite. They know stuff like this will happen and turn public opinion against ICE.
But the left has their useful idiot. It’s vague enough they will claim murder. More useful idiots will hit the streets and shite will pop off. Minnesota is going to burn again. Trump is going to have to declare martial law. Buckle up!
ETA: And I’m all for this deportation effort. But it is a fact that these thousands of new ICE agents aren’t trained or seasoned enough for this level of conflict. Trump has hired a bunch of regular baws gave them a minimal amount of training and turned them loose. Some are ex law enforcement or military, but most are just regular dudes with a hard on, a badge, and a gun. That’s why the left keeps poking the bear with this shite. They know stuff like this will happen and turn public opinion against ICE.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:51 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Such grace. Such intelligence.
Funny coming from the corrupt, and stupid left. this "protester" was out in -30+ wind chills with a gun answering the call to burn, bust, or break whatever to deflect attention way from mass corruption by Minn-ST Paul and Minnesota state officials. And to prevent the federal government from enforcing immigration law.
This has been going on day after day night after night in terrible weather conditions. People on both sides are tired, they're pissed, feed-up. The only surprise to this is it didn't happen sooner. Sooo predictable.
And most of the blame goes to the rhetoric of Minnesota leftest politicians trying to save their own asses by deflecting attention away their corruption scandal.
And to the bum lefty minions, If you grab a gun and go looking for trouble, you'll likely find it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:52 pm to arktiger28
It’s part of their revolution plan. Plain as day.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:53 pm to arktiger28
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I think it’s very dangerous at this point to jump out in front until the facts have been sifted through
Leftists couldn’t care less about the facts. This guy could have been pointing a firearm at ICE and they’d still claim it was excessive and unnecessary to shoot him.
They see this as nothing more than an opportunity to continue/justify rioting and as a way to try to sway public opinion.
It won’t work.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:54 pm to arktiger28
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None of this is going to end well.
This one ended well. No cops got hurt, no innocent civs got hurt, and the criminal FAFO.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:54 pm to roadGator
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:54 pm to samson73103
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I had an employee once who was a former cop. He said they were taught in the academy that when involved in an armed confrontation with a suspect, they were to empty their weapon to make certain the threat was neutralized.
No. Continue shooting until threat is stopped. Some might say neutralized. But in my 30+ years of law enforcement I have never heard training to empty the weapon. There are not even qualification shoots that put an officer through an exercise to shoot until weapon is empty.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:55 pm to BigTigerJoe
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Not all the ICE officers saw that one of them had gotten the perps gun. It was seconds and the perp was still resisting. With mere seconds and a gun that was in his hand, they reacted in self defense.
Agreed, Champagne made a strong point on this as well on another thread.
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You want the Law to require the LE to deal with the suspect with rapidly changing legal standards? You want the "Unarmed person" standard, then switch to "Armed and dangerous suspect" legal standard once they confirm that the suspect is armed, THEN you want the legal standard to switch back to "Unarmed person" in the middle of the fight, once one weapon is detached from the possession of the criminal who is actively fighting LE.
You want the Law to compel LE to CONFIRM EXISTENCE OF A SECOND WEAPON before switching away from the legal standard of LE dealing with an Unarmed Person.
That's absurd. The Law should not require LE to engage in that kind of somersault during an active fight to subdue a violent and armed suspect.
The left is so angry that yet again they failed to gain a martyr they are trying to convince people that Police need to be shot before they can return fire.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:55 pm to GeneralLee
All these protesters need to be rounded up and arrested for blocking road ways and obstructing ICE Agents.
Make a move!
Make a move!
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm to GeneralLee
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The third through fifth shots don’t look good when the guy is already neutralized.
Lolz
It wasn’t going to look good without a shot sir, but that’s not how shootings play out anyways. Most LEO’s will shoot more than two times.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm to Narax
Has this guy been identified anywhere?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:56 pm to Bunkie7672
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You guys all cheer on agents of the government shooting Americans acting like when the dems regain power they won’t turn this shite around on you. frick this.
Don’t Tread on Me!*
Live Free or Die!*
“When the people fear the government, that's tyranny; when the government fears the people, that's freedom.”*
*Does not apply to Republican-controlled governments
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:57 pm to arktiger28
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Two things are true at once.
1. I have not seen anything that makes this shoot clear one way or the other. I think it’s very dangerous at this point to jump out in front until the facts have been sifted through.
2. The environment that made this happen has been fomented by the anti-ice mentality and in lack of cooperation of local authorities. These events will continue to happen.
None of this is going to end well.
Agreed. This is almost always the case with LEO-related shootings/deaths in environments like this.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:57 pm to Narax
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It's exactly what should happen when you attack LEO with a gun.
Is there evidence or even a statement from the admin that this occurred?
There’s only evidence that he was resisting detainment while a gun was on his person, and the video evidence that the gun was removed before being shot.
With that being said, he definitely should not have been near any ice officer or even protesting with a gun on his person.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:57 pm to Smeg
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Unfortunately, the only way forward with this is more shootings, not less.
Yes, and I have no problem with more agitators getting shot- they just don't get it, so we will continue to have more and more FAFO moments...
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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I understand that is your position, and it is very reasonable view. But like I said earlier, what you or I think is not really relevant here. It's about eight circuit case precedent. If there is a prior case with very similar facts where this was ruled not legally justified, then the officers are in trouble. If it were ruled the other way or there isn't a comparable case, then they are shielded by qualified immunity. These things take time, but I like the officers chances if facing civil litigation (I think there is an exceedingly low chance they face anything criminal here).
We may be talking at cross-purposes here. I am man-splaining my position WRT what I think the Law should be in these matters.
You may be speculating WRT what the Law actually is.
What do you think the Law should be? That's the question that I'm answering with my posts.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:59 pm to TDTOM
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Has this guy been identified anywhere?
Yup the left has already made him a Wikipedia shrine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:59 pm to Athis
This other angle is much better than the first angle.
There are people in this thread saying that the killed guy went after ICE with a gun. That is absolutely false. Did not happen. ICE went after him because he had his cell phone out, started beating him like a street gang, and then shot him dead on the ground.
Just like the last one, I will not refuse to see what is right there on video. This is another right wing thug murder.
There are people in this thread saying that the killed guy went after ICE with a gun. That is absolutely false. Did not happen. ICE went after him because he had his cell phone out, started beating him like a street gang, and then shot him dead on the ground.
Just like the last one, I will not refuse to see what is right there on video. This is another right wing thug murder.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:59 pm to Bunkie7672
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You guys all cheer on agents of the government shooting Americans acting like when the dems regain power they won’t turn this shite around on you. frick this.
American Dem Socialists are Radical and they will attempt to turn the USA into an authoritarian regime. No doubt in my mind about that.
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