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re: New DNA evidence from Jefferson's hair concludes he fathered children of Sally Hemings

Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:35 pm to
And in other news we already knew, Sally Hemings determined to be black.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:42 pm to
The question is how is Trump to blame?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:54 pm to
This is somewhat different. What they did decades ago was find Y chromosome markers from the living male Jefferson descendants in a known descendent of Sally Hemmings (concluding that he had father descending from the Jefferson line). That didn't really differentiate particular Jefferson men, though, hence the Randolph vs. Thomas controversy that this is trying to sort out. Here they're claiming to have Thomas's hair with his nuclear DNA. That lets them compare DNA across both male & female descendant lines (old study couldn't do that). They also apparently included descendants of Randolph's line and modeled Thomas vs. Randolph and Randolph's sons.

The interesting questions now are whether the hair is securely TJ's & whether the methods really can distinguish those closely related possibilities as strongly as they're claiming. The paper is apparently still in peer review, so I'd like to see the actual methods behind the "1 in 1000" figure.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:04 pm to
None of this is particularly important. Jefferson was one of the smartest and best educated of the Founders. His concept of a democratic republic was inspired. He’s heroic in my opinion…
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
6076 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:07 pm to
Okay so maybe they loved each other. Last time I checked Love is color blind.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8733 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:08 pm to
Work network won't let me go to image sharing sites, but Sally could get it.

Pics of Sally
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4549 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:11 pm to
Did dey bref stank
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38956 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:28 pm to
Yep......and?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
12040 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

And when you are looking at a task that requires someone of Daniel Boone's stature.....you chose a dainty.


In one corner, we have you claiming Lewis was dainty and weak and unfit for the task.

In the other corner, we have Lewis completing the first transcontinental journey without modern machinery.

What should I put more faith in? A remarkable verified accomplishment or the words of someone 200 years later?

Maybe your assessment is a little off.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144892 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:55 pm to
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Not shocking…


he caught the fevah. have you ever caught the fevah?


Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7530 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:02 pm to
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he caught the fevah



Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
81502 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:19 pm to
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he wasn't part of the corrupt Political Establishment
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non-Establishment
Holy shite!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
141340 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Odds are 1 in a 1000 he is not the father.
Now run the genetic odds on his brother who, unlike TJ, is actually known to have "consorted with" slaves.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
12035 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:24 pm to
C'mon, Jake. He and all his 8 sibs had trust funds just like the rest of us non-establishment types.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
141340 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Wasn’t the thought that his brother was the father of those kids?
Yes.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21719 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Clara-Lee Nutt,
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The tour guide’s head
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Nutt’s DNA
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It’s absolutely huge


I mean dammit
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50240 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:29 pm to
Who cares?

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
26048 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:30 pm to
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