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re: Nation’s poorest states have Republican legislatures; richest have Democrat

Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:52 pm to
Yep.

Look at the actual areas of those states and the poor areas overwhelming vote democrat.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41700 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:53 pm to
The rich commies in the Soviet Union were really rich but there weren't that many of them. Kinda like California today. The rich there have so much money it skews the economic data for the whole state.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:54 pm to
Except: those states didn’t vote democrat during their periods of primary wealth growth. They were mostly republican during those times, and after becoming rich, transitioned to democrat.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:55 pm to
quote:


Look at the actual areas of those states and the poor areas overwhelming vote democrat
that's why I laugh everytime somebody runs one of these stories. States don't vote. Individuals do.
Posted by Music_City_Tiger
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2018
1087 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Yes it does.

Take Louisiana for instance, break it down parish by parish and zoom in on actual neighborhoods and you'll see that the poorest areas ACTUALLY vote democrat.


Exactly. Every red state is like this.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7874 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:56 pm to
stupid is as stupid does in your case.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14984 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:58 pm to
key quote:

quote:

Conventional wisdom has long proclaimed Republicans the party of the rich and Democrats the party of the poor! Forty years ago that was largely true. The poor almost everywhere elected Democrats. That is how most media portray it now.


Article didn't seem biased to me. More just noting an interesting point. If anything it seemed more "Republicans are the ones now representing the poor"
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49154 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Yes it does.

Take Louisiana for instance, break it down parish by parish and zoom in on actual neighborhoods and you'll see that the poorest areas ACTUALLY vote democrat.


That is my point.

Poverty comes with all kinds of social issues so those who are well off but still near impoverished areas will undoubtedly reject the mechanisms that sustain them.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Shhhh! We really need to stop pointing this out to them so that they stop moving down here.


There are people that would move to Alabama over $50k??? And I'm not speaking of football recruits.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Except: those states didn’t vote democrat during their periods of primary wealth growth. They were mostly republican during those times, and after becoming rich, transitioned to democrat.


So when should we expect to see the southern states become the wealthiest and the NE and West Coast become poor? When will it flip?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

one making 50k in AL is richer than someone making 100k in Massachusetts. 

Man I wish NPCs were capable of critical thinking.





I dont know what part of Alabama you live in. The only way that is true is if you want to live in a Mcmansion in Maryland.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18948 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:18 pm to
As a percentage of their gdp New York has the highest debt of any state in the US. Politicians decide debt of a state, their citizens the wealth of the individuals who live there.

If the intent of the OP was to prove liberal politicians create wealth, it was a very prolific "miss".
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

percentage of their gdp New York has the highest debt of any state in the US. Politicians decide debt of a state, their citizens the wealth of the individuals who live there. 



By that same token, as you stated, the reason the Republican states are poorer is a function of the citizens.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:29 pm to
I completely agree that the Democratic Party is the party of wealthy plutocrats and their minority pawns.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Look at the actual areas of those states and the poor areas overwhelming vote democrat

that's why I laugh everytime somebody runs one of these stories. States don't vote. Individuals do.





Why do you guys pretend states like LA and MS have these booming economies like the Northeast.

Yes, the Democratic areas are the poorest in Red states. But if the government is primarily Republican, that means the majority of the population votes R overall.

So a Republican legislature should be able to pass laws that promote commerce and good economics like the Blue states. Instead (as this board openly admits several times) businesses don't want to open HQ here and we suffer brain drain to other states.

How exactly are poorer states bastions of Republicanism while having fewer economic opportunities?
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9152 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:32 pm to
Because most Republicans aren’t conservatives. If you look at overwhelming Republican States like Alabama, we take more money from the federal government for Medicaid and Medicare than any other state. We talk the talk, but our politicians don’t walk the walk.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63099 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:36 pm to
Why do you think state legislatures are responsible for the wealth of their constituents? Governments can't create income.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63099 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

we take more money from the federal government for Medicaid and Medicare than any other state. We talk the talk, but our politicians don’t walk the walk


Alabama has been Republican controlled since 2010. Those Republicans chose not to expand Medicare. What you're referring to happened under Dem rule, and will take more than just 8 years to fix.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:43 pm to
I live in Huntsville and while my salary would be nothing special in LA or NYC, it's pretty kickass when $1350/month rent gets me one of the nicer apartments in the city

the metric you are citing here is myopic and skewed as a result of the lack of cost of living adjustments
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15560 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 1:45 pm to
Here's an example.

I live in Mandeville. The median income is around $50k.

Tallulah, a city of comparable size, has a median income of about $17k.

Wanna guess which one votes R and which one votes D?

It's not the Republicans' fault that areas controlled by democrats are poor.
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