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Myth- “social security is guaranteed”.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:46 pm
Matt Walsh says what I’ve said here 15 years ago.
There are no guarantees. Younger people can decide that they don’t want to live by rules that now dead people made almost 100 years ago.
FTR- I supported the Bush 43 plan.
There are no guarantees. Younger people can decide that they don’t want to live by rules that now dead people made almost 100 years ago.
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Tired of this excuse. First of all, social security is not something you “pay into.” If it were, you wouldn’t need younger people to “pay into it” in order to get your check. But you do. Because this is a Ponzi scheme, not a retirement account. What you really mean to say is that your money was stolen from you — which it was — and now you want to steal from younger people to get restitution.
That’s the actual case you’re making and it’s exactly as morally deranged as it sounds. Second, your generation continually for decades voted for politicians who would keep the scheme going. You might not have invented social security, but you damn sure made certain it kept going. Why should younger people have to pay the price for the shitty policies you supported?
FTR- I supported the Bush 43 plan.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:51 pm to TrueTiger
It can be simultaneously a program you pay into and a Ponzi scheme
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:51 pm to TrueTiger
I want an opt out. Of course that isn’t feasible because the generation who ruined the country, all of its institutions, its economic and foreign policy infrastructure, and its general independence now need my money to fade away apparently.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:52 pm to TrueTiger
We owe it to boomers to pay more tax so they can keep social security
They beat the Nazis in WWII and brought this country into the 21st century
They beat the Nazis in WWII and brought this country into the 21st century
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:54 pm to Revelator
Regardless, younger generations can vote in representatives to kill it and there is nothing that can stop it, if that’s what they choose.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:55 pm to Revelator
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It can be simultaneously a program you pay into and a Ponzi scheme
you "pay into" every ponzi scheme
it is the timing of the exit that matters
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:57 pm to Dire Wolf
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you "pay into" every ponzi scheme
I was simply countering Walsh’s claim that we don’t pay into it!
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:58 pm to TrueTiger
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FTR- I supported the Bush 43 plan.
But the democrats didn't. They said its was gambling. They really did.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:58 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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They beat the Nazis in WWII and brought this country into the 21st century
You want to run over that again?
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:59 pm to TrueTiger
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Regardless, younger generations can vote in representatives to kill it and there is nothing that can stop it, if that’s what they choose.
Virtually impossible.
Its a political career suicide pill at this point. Old people from both parties would be burning shite down
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:59 pm to TrueTiger
Matt wants young people to be able to forfeit SS but literally everyone under 30 I know has zero fiscal restraint whatsoever. They're all drinking $8 coffees, door dashing constantly, never eat at home, save nothing, charge everything and constantly whine about expensive everything is and that life's unfair. You really think these morons are gonna save money for 40 friggin years in order to have financial security when they're old?
Seems unlikely.
Seems unlikely.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:00 pm to TrueTiger
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Regardless, younger generations can vote in representatives to kill it and there is nothing that can stop it, if that’s what they choose.
Yes, and as the country becomes more diverse, the likelihood of this happening rises. A more brown America isn’t likely going to want to continue to be taxed to support a primarily white elderly population.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:00 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I’m pretty sure the world was going to go into the 21st century, regardless of who and what generation was in charge.
But I do appreciate your sarcasm!
But I do appreciate your sarcasm!
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:01 pm to 50_Tiger
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Its a political career suicide pill at this point. Old people from both parties would be burning shite down
lot of people whine about socialism coming to America but don't hear them wanting to cut medicare and SS
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:03 pm to Indefatigable
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I want an opt out.
no shite! Your opinion is not original - all the Boomers who you are complaining about also wanted to opt out. We couldn't and instead we paid in to support our parents and grandparents generations who didn't pay in even 1/2 as much as we did. So get in line.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:03 pm to 50_Tiger
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Its a political career suicide pill at this point. Old people from both parties would be burning shite down
What you young ones have to do is to start weaning the country of it. If you have to pay some SS tax, then the government needs to give you more investment options like more money into an IRA. Boomers are dying off. What is the next generation up? X? Then they will bitch about taking it away. BREAK THE CYCLE. Find a politician who will do what YOU want.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:06 pm to MAROON
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all the Boomers who you are complaining about also wanted to opt out. We couldn't and instead we paid in to support our parents and grandparents generations who didn't pay in even 1/2 as much as we did
Too bad
Time to pull up your bootstraps
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:07 pm to Tigersforthee
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Matt wants young people to be able to forfeit SS but literally everyone under 30 I know has zero fiscal restraint whatsoever. They're all drinking $8 coffees, door dashing constantly, never eat at home, save nothing, charge everything and constantly whine about expensive everything is and that life's unfair. You really think these morons are gonna save money for 40 friggin years in order to have financial security when they're old
You honestly have no idea about the financial situation of any of these people you say you see. Most probably have a retirement account in place.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:08 pm to TrueTiger
“WHERES YOUR RESPECT FOR YOUR ELDERS BOY”
Posted on 10/6/26 at 2:08 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Boomers are dying off. What is the next generation up? X? Then they will bitch about taking it away
Who cares, us Xers do not have the voting numbers to be meaningful in any way.
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