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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:56 pm to
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You love sucking up to the crowd around here that's for sure

I love making fun of your approach and you make it so easy.

I mean, every P'man thread is a fricking carbon copy of every other P'man thread.

1. Make assertion of fact without supporting it or loosely supporting it.

2. Call anyone who doesn't simply accept your fact stupid.

3. Refuse to answer questions regarding your facts or respond to assertions as to why your facts may not say what you think.

4. Around page 10, when people get aggravated with you avoiding them, start posting about how no one will try to converse with you and only want to call you names.

5. Declare victory when people get tired of chasing you around and the thread dies.

Rinse. Repeat.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:57 pm to
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Facts are a part of trends

You a sports fan?

If I showed you 1 minute of a basketball game do you think that would give you more information than half of the game? The whole game?

Oh
My
God.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157500 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:57 pm to
So you can't support it with a link.

Just spitballing?

Facts

You are too funny.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:57 pm to
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But the "build the wall!" morons don't really care about facts


Facts don’t matter you tard. Acknowledging that these facts exist is what’s most important

This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:58 pm to
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I mean, every P'man thread is a fricking carbon copy of every other P'man thread.

This could be a much more civil process if people didn't outright deny the facts in front of them from jump street

You might not be one of the people denying the trend but there are people here who are

And people who are attributing it to Trump despite it being the trend long before him taking office

Sorry, when I see things that are so obviously stupid, I'm going to call it out as stupid.

You likely think it's stupid too but for some reason you decide to suck up to the dumb asses and attack me instead.

You're a fricking fraud if I've ever seen one
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157500 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90315 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:00 pm to
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This could be a much more civil process if people didn't outright deny the facts in front of them from jump street

Or if Powertool would engage in discourse instead of ignoring relevant questions.

quote:

You might not be one of the people denying the trend but there are people here who are

Who Powerfool?

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attack me instead.

Says the choad that stater calling people morons.

quote:

You're a fricking fraud if I've ever seen one

Are you powermad you sound powermad?
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

1. Make assertion of fact without supporting it or loosely supporting it.

2. Call anyone who doesn't simply accept your fact stupid.

3. Refuse to answer questions regarding your facts or respond to assertions as to why your facts may not say what you think.

4. Around page 10, when people get aggravated with you avoiding them, start posting about how no one will try to converse with you and only want to call you names.

5. Declare victory when people get tired of chasing you around and the thread dies.


This is pretty much what DisplacedCuckeye does too.

In fact many flaming liberals - excuse me - "moderate conservatives" on this board use the old war of attrition tactic to feel like they've won a debate.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:02 pm to
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This could be a much more civil process if people didn't outright deny the facts in front of them from jump street
I didn't do this. Sorry.

quote:

You might not be one of the people denying the trend but there are people here who are
Well, I'm not speaking for the other people. In typical P'man fashion, you ONLY want to focus on those so that you can avoid questions from people like me.

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And people who are attributing it to Trump despite it being the trend long before him taking office
See above

quote:


Sorry, when I see things that are so obviously stupid, I'm going to call it out as stupid.
Yet, never take the time to actually respond to people who actually address your OP. Again, typical P'man style.

quote:


You likely think it's stupid too but for some reason you decide to suck up to the dumb asses and attack me instead.
I don't think it's stupid. I know what you're doing. You don't post to discuss. You post to generate post count. You sit back and wait for low hanging fruit while acting like the other people in the thread don't exist or, ignoring what they say.

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You're a fricking fraud if I've ever seen one
A fraud who from step 1, addressed your OP directly.

One can only assume your aggravation with me is related to you NOT wanting that to happen.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Vacherie Saint

They all think they've invented something never before seen on the internet.

It's hilarious really.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17477 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

But the growth in Mexico has been slowing which could certainly be a factor


Your main argument is that we should be looking at the trend but you are speculating on the driving factors.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Your main argument is that we should be looking at the trend but you are speculating on the driving factors.


And the use of the word "could"...by definition....is defacto admission that there's nothing that one can say is permanent about the "trend".

Dude has already refuted his own argument in here.

Not, it's just making fun of P'man time.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

deny the facts


your opinions about how many hundreds of thousands of illegals can cross the border every year without being "a big deal" is the absence of fact.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:08 pm to
I still want to know why 310K+ is okay and what he suggests we do about those that overstay. I and many posters have already given solutions to both problems.


He won’t answer this because he doesn’t see 310K or overstays as a problem. In fact, he wish both were higher.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Your main argument is that we should be looking at the trend but you are speculating on the driving factors.


It's not an exact science

I'm sure if you were too look into some scholarly papers on the matter you'd find that it's a factor
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:09 pm to
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I still want to know why 310K+ is okay and what he suggests we do about those that overstay.

If you don't like the 310K number you really wouldn't like the new numbers if we deported 11 million illegals
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:09 pm to
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It's not an exact science
Oh, so it’s opinion.

quote:

I'm sure if you were too look into some scholarly papers on the matter you'd find that it's a factor


Link to scholarly papers?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:10 pm to
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If you don't like the 310K number you really wouldn't like the new numbers if we deported 11 million illegals

Thats not an answer
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90315 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

If you don't like the 310K number you really wouldn't like the new numbers if we deported 11 million illegals

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:11 pm to
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One can only assume your aggravation with me is related to you NOT wanting that to happen.



Or perhaps you're overestimating the power of your arguments and the importance of your questions.
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