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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Can you support that with a link because that doesn't make sense unless you contend that the US hasn't been growing over the years.



Doesn't make sense to you maybe

Not all sectors of the economy grow at the same rate

If there is less demand for illegal immigrant labor there will be fewer illegals coming here

That doesn't mean that the country and economy aren't growing. It means that the sectors that employ illegals aren't as lacking the labor that they once were.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Well give us the reasons you think



LOL. Dude. I've got like 12 pages before I need to answer a question from you simply using YOUR standard. And you still haven't even fricking answered 4 of mine!

Oh. But just to help you. If the reasons aren't permanent reasons, then you can't use them to support a "trend" dumb arse.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:45 pm to
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If there is less demand for illegal immigrant labor there will be fewer illegals coming here
Demand trends aren't permanent. Basically, if this is your reason, then you can't claim problem solved because were demand trends to turn around, so would your cited trend.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Growing a nearly double the rate of the US.

link?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Not all sectors of the economy grow at the same rate

Nice work man.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:45 pm to
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link?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:47 pm to
The US population grew by .7% in most recent numbers.

Mexico's by 1.3%.

When you are THAT wrong, I'm not fricking holding your hand.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:47 pm to
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link?


He is right. But population growth in Mexico has been trending downward for a decade so there is that.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Knowing the reason the numbers are going down isn't as important as first acknowledging that they are in fact going down

This might be some of the worst logic I’ve ever seen.. holy shite dude
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:50 pm to
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He is right. But population growth in Mexico has been trending downward for a decade so there is that.



Looked it up and he is in fact right

But the growth in Mexico has been slowing which could certainly be a factor
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:50 pm to
300k is the number apprehended. It much safer to legally fly, drive or walk across the border.
There are natural barriers, fences, and manpower to prevent illegal crossings. The wall does not address the real issues which is overstays.
It is all political on both sides.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:51 pm to
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The wall does not address the real issues which is overstays.

Correct

But the "build the wall!" morons don't really care about facts
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:51 pm to
Funny part is. I know what poor old P'man did. He quickly pulled up a growth rate graph on Mexico and ran with it to reply to me but didn't examine closely.

P'man likes his graphs. His ability to delve beneath them?

Not so great.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:52 pm to
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But the "build the wall!" morons don't really care about facts

Facts don't matter as much as trends.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:52 pm to
You love sucking up to the crowd around here that's for sure
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:53 pm to
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You love sucking up to the crowd around here that's for sure

Link?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Correct

But the "build the wall!" morons don't really care about facts
The overstay issue has been addressed multiple times in this thread. Stop pretending you don’t want these people staying here forever.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Facts don't matter as much as trends.

Facts are a part of trends

You a sports fan?

If I showed you 1 minute of a basketball game do you think that would give you more information than half of the game? The whole game?
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Correct But the "build the wall!" morons don't really care about facts


Then your dumbass thread is dumb.

Start a thread about something meaningful like visa overstay invaders. WTF is wrong with you?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Facts are a part of trends

No foolin Powertool?
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If I showed you 1 minute of a basketball game do you think that would give you more information than half of the game? The whole game?

Depends on what minute now wouldn't it?
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