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My big concern about impeachment
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:18 pm
Pelosi knows impeaching Trump only to be acquitted by the Senate is a huge loser.
She's crazy but not stupid.
My concern is that she knows there is some Republican support in the Senate to get rid of Trump.
We could rattle off 8 that would do it without a trial.
There are probably 10-15 more that might be open to it.
This is a high stakes game and I wouldn't be so quick to say impeachment is a gift to Trump.
Plenty Republicans as stupid as Democrats.
She's crazy but not stupid.
My concern is that she knows there is some Republican support in the Senate to get rid of Trump.
We could rattle off 8 that would do it without a trial.
There are probably 10-15 more that might be open to it.
This is a high stakes game and I wouldn't be so quick to say impeachment is a gift to Trump.
Plenty Republicans as stupid as Democrats.
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:20 pm to Tiger985
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My concern is that she knows there is some Republican support in the Senate to get rid of Trump.
Won't happen....it would be the death of the Rep Party and 'Merica
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:20 pm to Tiger985
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We could rattle off 8 that would do it without a trial. There are probably 10-15 more that might be open to it.
As long as Trump has 34 votes in the Senate (and he certainly does), then all of this is academic.
It's a binary choice in both chambers. Yes/no to impeachment. Yes/no to removal. No grading on a curve. No vote harvesting.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:22 pm to Tiger985
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My concern is that she knows there is some Republican support in the Senate to get rid of Trump.
Now where near enough. Need 67 votes IIRC.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:22 pm to Tiger985
The best part of this is that Trump can finally spin the fact that AOC is now the de facto leader of the Democratic party
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:25 pm to Wtodd
Maybe it is time for some reform in the GOP. Time to elect some folks that won't spend us into oblivion like the Dems. Too many in the GOP say one thing and then ask for more money for pet projects in their state.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:25 pm to Tiger985
There are neverTrumpers even secret ones but not enough.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:27 pm to Tiger985
They'd better not try this shite until AFTER the gun confiscations are complete.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:31 pm to Tiger985
I'm kind of hoping that if successful this will be the spark that will burn this whole shite house to the ground. American politic has jumped the shark. Time for a change.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:32 pm to Tiger985
My big concern as stated in another thread, is the ignorance of the electorate. Too many people believe impeachment equals wrong doing. And they'd vote for the Dem nominee just because they don't know any better.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:33 pm to Tiger985
First, to remove they will need 2/3 Or 67 votes in the Senate to convict. Assume that all 45 Dems and the 2 Independents vote to convict, name the 20 Republicans that would vote to convict.
Second, the Senate by majority vote, controls the proceedings. When Clinton was impeached the Republican controlled Senate did not allow public testimony. In this case I would not only want the Senate to demand public testimony but only allow the House managers to conduct the witness examinations, no outside counsel. Could you imagine Maxine Waters in the Senate trying to conduct a witness examination?
Second, the Senate by majority vote, controls the proceedings. When Clinton was impeached the Republican controlled Senate did not allow public testimony. In this case I would not only want the Senate to demand public testimony but only allow the House managers to conduct the witness examinations, no outside counsel. Could you imagine Maxine Waters in the Senate trying to conduct a witness examination?
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:35 pm to Tiger985
Good luck finding 20 some odd R's to join the inpeachment. They'd be sent out to pasture by the RNC
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:36 pm to Tiger985
There won't be riots like there would if this was done to Obama.
but we are going to see push back in this country for a long time....if this goes through...in other words this is going to be divisive to already divisive political theater.
there is no crime...
there is no need to go look for crimes, that's already been exercised the last 3 years.
so, let them do what they are going to do...
Trump supporters are going to have come out from hiding and voice their opinions
but we are going to see push back in this country for a long time....if this goes through...in other words this is going to be divisive to already divisive political theater.
there is no crime...
there is no need to go look for crimes, that's already been exercised the last 3 years.
so, let them do what they are going to do...
Trump supporters are going to have come out from hiding and voice their opinions
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:36 pm to Tiger985
quote:Not a chance.
We could rattle off 8 that would do it without a trial.
There are probably 10-15 more that might be open to it.
If I had to guess, there's a 50:50 chance Pelosi does nothing.
If she does something, she will move to censure the POTUS, not impeach.
She'll then try to sell censure as some awful, horrible, terrible mark on the Trump Presidency.
They simply have NOTHING to justify impeachment. There is no way in hell, w/o an actual crime that the Senate would come anywhere close to the numbers you cite.
Meanwhile, Trump will release the transcript tomorrow. Maybe something bad will be in it, but that is highly unlikely. Regardless, as of this afternoon there is nothing impeachable.
Trump's approval is sitting at 53%.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:37 pm to Tiger985
Their careers and special interest will come to an end....do it
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:37 pm to yatesdog38
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Maybe it is time for some reform in the GOP. Time to elect some folks that won't spend us into oblivion like the Dems. Too many in the GOP say one thing and then ask for more money for pet projects in their state.
I'm all for this.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:46 pm to Tiger985
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She's crazy but not stupid.
She had been saying it may backfire, but so much she can do with how crazy her party is. They are blinded by hate, and running on emotion.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 1:46 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
And a coward. She's afraid of the extremists that are taking over the Democrat party.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 2:36 pm to KANDUUU
They probably also know it will fail, but want everyone to go on record because they think it could impact the election. Anyone that thinks he should be impeached will show up to vote to replace anyone that votes against.
Unfortunately for them, I bet there is a much larger group of people that will show up to vote to replace those that voted for
Unfortunately for them, I bet there is a much larger group of people that will show up to vote to replace those that voted for
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