- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: More people have watched the Tucker/Putin interview than the Super Bowl
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:01 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:01 am to theunknownknight
Best interview I’ve seen in awhile. Tucker is a fantastic journalist.
2
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:02 am to Jake88
quote:
But, specifically, what are they worried about? What did he say?
The highlights?
1. The USA is the one pushing war in Ukraine for financial gain and most of what we see is “theater”
2. The USA overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 to install western sympathizers with the possibility of expanding NATO and weakening Russia.
3. Western Ukraine is full of “literal” Nazis and the USA is supporting them
4. Russia is trying to reclaim parts of Ukraine that are historically Russian in order to inhibit the eastern spread of NATO on its doorstep
5. The USA/CIA blew up the Nordstream Pipeline.
6. The US President is a figurehead who doesn't run anything. The US is run by elites.
7. Tucker Carlson tried to get in the CIA and the CIA didn't want him
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:05 am to theunknownknight
Using the Dollar as a weapon is a critically stupid mistake.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:05 am to theunknownknight
quote:
110 million clearly refers to views as that is what is counted under the video.
So when I say “watched” I clearly mean “views”
Haven't watched, so dangerously just assuming what was posted here is accurate. But, if I click on the video, see it's a 2 hour video and close it after 5 minutes; does that not count as a view. Additionally, if it is a 2 hour video, so I decide to watch it 30 minutes at a time, would that not count has 4 views from the same person?
And as someone else said, of course more people watched this than the SB; the SB is not until this weekend. FYI, last year's SB had 114M people watch it
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:06 am to Jake88
It’s controversial because the media will never report that the US/UN forced Russias hand to invade Ukraine. Any man with a spine in Putins shoes would have done the same thing.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:07 am to trussthetruzz
quote:
Tucker is a fantastic journalist.
Eh.
The guy interviewed Trump, didn’t even mention the vaccine and then a couple days later in an interview with Candace Owens calls vaccine misinformation one of the three biggest issues of our times.
Hard to call someone a fantastic journalist when they lob softball and dodge serious issues for their preferred political candidates.
Also didn’t press Owens at all on any of her completely ignorant comments about the Israel/Hamas conflict.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:07 am to Weekend Warrior79
quote:
Haven't watched, so dangerously just assuming what was posted here is accurate. But, if I click on the video, see it's a 2 hour video and close it after 5 minutes; does that not count as a view
Yes it does. It also counts when watching the Superbowl. So that’s even Steven.
But having the video on a feed and it playing as you scroll is an impression, not a view and that could be closer to a billion.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:08 am to theunknownknight
There's 2 things that stick out to me about the interview.
1 - Putin, at face value comes across as very level headed. His political mindset has rational logic (whether you agree with it or not). He makes arguments on logic you can follow. His comments on America were very interesting. No calls with the current administration, no communication. And because of that, a lack of respect for the current administration. Some of the answers he gave to some answers, you'd expect. Claims to not have interfered with the election. I'd expect that regardless of if he did or didn't. I personally don't believe he did. His comments on how Trump handles foreign affairs were interesting also. It confirms my opinion that the Trump you get on MSM in America is not how the man is behind closed doors, in his personal life and with other leaders. Putin's commentary helped confirm that.
2 - I haven't decided if I agree with him invading Ukraine or not. I certainly don't believe it is something America should be funding either way. In some form or fashion, most land including America is "stolen" land. What he is essentially arguing is that Ukraine was theirs, their heritage still exists and many people want to be part of Russia. I can't think of any way to validate that on a normal Joe level like myself. I don't believe the MSM. They report a little truth mixed in with a lot of lies. What he's trying to accomplish is the equivalent in my simple mind to Indians trying to reclaim land in America. I am on a national indian role, but I don't think that would be perceived well.
The fact that MSM and the current administration spun their wheels to figure out how to stop it, does nothing to increase their credibility and damages it further.
1 - Putin, at face value comes across as very level headed. His political mindset has rational logic (whether you agree with it or not). He makes arguments on logic you can follow. His comments on America were very interesting. No calls with the current administration, no communication. And because of that, a lack of respect for the current administration. Some of the answers he gave to some answers, you'd expect. Claims to not have interfered with the election. I'd expect that regardless of if he did or didn't. I personally don't believe he did. His comments on how Trump handles foreign affairs were interesting also. It confirms my opinion that the Trump you get on MSM in America is not how the man is behind closed doors, in his personal life and with other leaders. Putin's commentary helped confirm that.
2 - I haven't decided if I agree with him invading Ukraine or not. I certainly don't believe it is something America should be funding either way. In some form or fashion, most land including America is "stolen" land. What he is essentially arguing is that Ukraine was theirs, their heritage still exists and many people want to be part of Russia. I can't think of any way to validate that on a normal Joe level like myself. I don't believe the MSM. They report a little truth mixed in with a lot of lies. What he's trying to accomplish is the equivalent in my simple mind to Indians trying to reclaim land in America. I am on a national indian role, but I don't think that would be perceived well.
The fact that MSM and the current administration spun their wheels to figure out how to stop it, does nothing to increase their credibility and damages it further.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:09 am to fr33manator
quote:
Say what you will about Putin
Ok i'll start:
He likely bombed and killed hundreds of his own citizens and blamed it on chechnya in order to ascend to power. Forgive me for not being overwhelmed by his dizzying intellect (that interview was boring as frick, also)
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:10 am to DCtiger1
Ah yeah i forgot about that. The USA is torpedoing it's own dollar and forcing Russia/China to become closer allies, backfiring on the US economy. Meanwhile, we are trying to print our way out of it leading to more inflation. Putin called our monetary policy stupid as it is hurting us more than we realize.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:10 am to msutiger
Which journalist do you follow that fits your criteria?
Sometimes there are terms to an interview, much like Biden's handlers issue when agreeing to an interview. In those cases, you agree to the terms, and ask the agreed upon questions or you don't get the interview at all. Or you agree to the terms, break the terms and ask questions not agreed upon and get black balled from future interviews.
Sometimes there are terms to an interview, much like Biden's handlers issue when agreeing to an interview. In those cases, you agree to the terms, and ask the agreed upon questions or you don't get the interview at all. Or you agree to the terms, break the terms and ask questions not agreed upon and get black balled from future interviews.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:11 am to theunknownknight
quote:
Ah yeah i forgot about that. The USA is torpedoing it's own dollar and forcing Russia/China to become closer allies, backfiring on the US economy. Meanwhile, we are trying to print our way out of it leading to more inflation. Putin called our monetary policy stupid as it is hurting us more than we realize.
Well that's certainly correct...
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:14 am to theunknownknight
I rememeber the last time some bozo was trying to claim impressions was the same as views. It was the trump, tucker interview during a debate.
Something, Something, common denominator.
Something, Something, common denominator.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:16 am to theunknownknight
quote:
The highlights? 1. The USA is the one pushing war in Ukraine for financial gain and most of what we see is “theater” 2. The USA overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 to install western sympathizers with the possibility of expanding NATO and weakening Russia. 3. Western Ukraine is full of “literal” Nazis and the USA is supporting them 4. Russia is trying to reclaim parts of Ukraine that are historically Russian in order to inhibit the eastern spread of NATO on its doorstep 5. The USA/CIA blew up the Nordstream Pipeline. 6. The US President is a figurehead who doesn't run anything. The US is run by elites. 7. Tucker Carlson tried to get in the CIA and the CIA didn't want him
I can’t believe you left out the part where Putin said Poland started WWII.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:16 am to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:
Which journalist do you follow that fits your criteria?
Sometimes there are terms to an interview, much like Biden's handlers issue when agreeing to an interview. In those cases, you agree to the terms, and ask the agreed upon questions or you don't get the interview at all. Or you agree to the terms, break the terms and ask questions not agreed upon and get black balled from future interviews.
I think Andrew Klavan is the best independent thinker in the conservative space.
As far as “journalists” go, I don’t think there are really any left. Whether that be their own choice or the choice of the company they work for. Doesn’t really matter.
I want someone who is willing to say what they think, even if they piss off their own audience. Those are getting harder and harder to find.
Sorry, I used to be a big Tucker fan, but it is obvious to me he is catering to build an audience for his new network. I don’t hate the guy and he can certainly win me back but I’m calling it for what I see.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:17 am to Jake88
quote:
But, specifically, what are they worried about? What did he say? I know he's going to give his propaganda and the other side has given theirs. Just wondering what specifically is different.
The pro-Ukrainian faction are mostly (not all) simply mindless bots who repeat the narrative fed to them by the MSM. Therefore, they are insecure at the very notion that someone would attempt to make them “think” differently about a subject they were told to be emotionally invested in. They actually are shocked that someone might have a different viewpoint, instead of actively trying to understanding opposing views.
Now, granted, this process of looking at all sides is very murky indeed. Almost all important conflicts and decisions involve trade-offs and proper historical perspective. And Putin, being very intelligent and a former KGB officer, is skilled at obfuscation and manipulation.
Nevertheless, understanding the position of the opponent (even if it’s only their stated position which may or may not obscure reality) is the START of diplomacy and absolutely essential.
The most immediate take away from the interview is the fact that the U.S. State Department and the POTUS aren’t in frequent and meaningful communication with Putin and Russia, both before the conflict and during.
The second take away which was hinted at but should be investigated fully, was the very strange behavior of the U.S. in dealing with Ukraine during the Obama Administration with Joe as VP and actively involved in political processes, an alleged coup, covert bio-labs (remember those), obvious money laundering and bribery, entertaining the idea of Ukraine being admitted to NATO at a time when the mission of NATO was unclear at best.
The left acts like it’s unpatriotic and shocking to question the Biden/Obama Admins about what exactly was our policy towards Ukraine and Russia. Why was it all so covert? What was so special about Ukraine that made it different from Lithuania or Turkmenistan or Romania?
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:17 am to doubleb
quote:
I can’t believe you left out the part where Putin said Poland started WWII.
That wasn't a highlight to me
There are people who say the south started the Civil War too. Doesn't mean they are correct.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:18 am to Jake88
quote:
Why is the interview controversial?
They do not like Tucker. If this was Rachel Maddow they'd love it and the right would bitch. We are a fractured society. Interviewing one of the twenty most influential humans used to be looked highly upon.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:18 am to msutiger
Tucker can get blinded and biased, but his voice is important. He usually backs up his claims with some evidence and facts, and can sometimes admit when he is wrong. He can also get overly emotional, but some topics require emotion to push back against the Overton Window.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:19 am to Fun Bunch
That's pretty good. The half hour history lesson was a slog, but in the end explained at least their justification for the invasion.
Those areas were formerly part of Russia, hold ethnically Russian people, and they feel that it's in their best interest to return to Russian control.
These sorts of views are more common when your country has a 1000+ year history instead of ~250.
I mean, the borders of the United States and individual states have changed...do we expect them to stay the same forever?
Page 2 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News