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re: More historians call out Ken Burns on his BS documentary of the American Revolution
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
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Not to mention the fact that the 1621 meal would not have been possible without the Spanish explorations of 1492-1600.
Not to mention the fact that the Spanish explorations of 1492-1600 would not have been possible without the Egyptian discovery of sailing vessels in >3000 B.C.
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:27 am to ChineseBandit58
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Not to mention the fact that the Spanish explorations of 1492-1600 would not have been possible without the Egyptian discovery of sailing vessels in >3000 B.C.
Yep. It all builds on top of each other. It's why we consider the Middle/Near East to be the cradle of civilization and most of our world history textbooks begin with the ancient Mesopotamians and Egyptians. However, I doubt the Spaniards were inspired by an ancient civilization that had long since gone extinct to sail westward into the unknown.
It cannot be doubted, however, that the English were inspired by the successes of the Spanish Empire to sail westward in the late-1500s/early-1600s. And the fact that Spanish Florida was our 27th state in these United States, the melding of Spanish history into our national fabric could not be more appropriate.
It also makes sense that the story of St. Augustine and the Thanksgiving of 1565 did not make it into our national tapestry until very recently. Florida became a state in 1845 and the legends surrounding the Puritans and the Thanksgiving of 1621 had been forming for two decades prior.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:43 am to L.A.
Ken Burns is a liberal nut job. Just because you call yourself a historian doesn’t mean you don’t put your bias slant on events. Which he does.
Same with people who call themselves journalists. No you’re not. You’re a propagandist.
Same with people who call themselves journalists. No you’re not. You’re a propagandist.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:56 am to Willie Stroker
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If the modern tradition had been based on St Aug, we would be eating salt pork, garbanzo beans, hard biscuits, and cheap wine.
frick it, I'm in.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:00 am to GregMaddux
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Pretty sure i was taught this in elementary school.
You were lied to in elementary school?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:02 pm to ChineseBandit58
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the Egyptian discovery of sailing vessels
Where were these vessels discovered? Had they been there the whole time?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:23 pm to L.A.
If you actually watched the entire episode you'd know that is an utterly false characterization of what Burns presented. You're just regurgitating modern white dude paranoia and greivance...
Burns painted the colonists as exceptionally brave and seeking to form a deocratic republic unlike anything the world had ever seen(he makes that point repeatedly over the course of the documentary. The brief mention of the
Iroquois early on doesn't change his intent...
Burns painted the colonists as exceptionally brave and seeking to form a deocratic republic unlike anything the world had ever seen(he makes that point repeatedly over the course of the documentary. The brief mention of the
Iroquois early on doesn't change his intent...
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:36 pm to L.A.
I rolled my eyes through the first episode, the second one gets better. What none of the historians have brought up, or just glanced over, is how important the Christian faith was to the Colonists. It is well known that clergymen used the pulpit to support the fight against tyranny and their congregations across all the Colonies rallied around that message. The original Continental Congress held several days of fasting and prayer throughout the war. Of the 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, one two were not members of the church, Franklin and Jefferson.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:48 pm to VOR
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You're just regurgitating modern white dude paranoia and greivance..
You sound like a racist to me.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 4:40 pm to JackieTreehorn
Punchable face for sure.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 4:51 pm to BoomerandSooner
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in the late 70's and we were handed scissors, Elmers glue and construction paper to make a turkey.
Future liberals were the ones eating the paste.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 5:06 pm to L.A.
It was news to me when the documentary talked about the six nations of the Iroquois Confederacy. I'm from up there and there were only five tribes when I was in school. The Tuscarora were never taught as being part of the Iroquois Nation.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:09 pm to L.A.
Burns is a degenerate. Google him. That’s all you need to know.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 6:11 pm to L.A.
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I bailed 3 minutes into episode 1 when Burns tried to credit the the Iroquois Confederacy as the inspiration and guide for our nation's founding;.
Some of the concepts of the Houses of Congress came from the Iroquois, but to deny the overall Roman/Greeks libertarian thought roots is anti-European rubbish.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 7:15 pm to canyon
Revolution - natives and slaves
Country music - Rhiannon Giddens
That's real history for you.
Country music - Rhiannon Giddens
That's real history for you.
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