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re: More evidence of a setup on J6, but this part didn’t go according to plan.

Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14491 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:26 pm to
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I'm more shocked the same police who were orchestrating this plan were also the ones who agreed to be shot.

Does it make more sense if it was yet another trap where they could incite an act that warrants criminal charges?

If no cop fired at the gunman, does that not suggest all of them knew it was unloaded?

They now have someone on video possessing a firearm and aiming it officers.
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2009 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:47 pm to
How would they not have to go through some kind of screening to be at the capital? Especially on inauguration day.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:57 pm to
Do we know if the guy in the orange hat did any jail time, or if he was even charged? Wouldn't that add A LOT more clarity to this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451051 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Does it make more sense if it was yet another trap

That's not a trap, though.

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where they could incite an act that warrants criminal charges?

That already exists, if that was actually a gun. Pointing a gun at a person, especially LEO, is a crime.

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If no cop fired at the gunman, does that not suggest all of them knew it was unloaded?

Yes, which then asks what was the plan? If it was to get a non-reaction from the LEO, then what's the point?

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They now have someone on video possessing a firearm


Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5267 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:04 pm to
The one fact from that video is those officers knew that gun was not lethal..

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20841 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:22 pm to
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The LEO would have shot back at him once he pointed the gun at them, regardless. That didn't happen, so it wasn't the plan.


Why does this need to be spelled out to you?

The “plan” could have been for the supposed rioter (actor) to shoot first. When that didn’t happen, the cops (also acting) got a bit confused and froze. No (blank) gun fire, so the actor aborted the plan, and donned the yellow cap as a signal.

It’s all hypothetical I realize, and surely it’s just a guess, but it’s as plausible an explanation than any other, and MORE plausible that the cop intentionally threw down a magazine, and someone else dropped a gun, and a totally unrelated person rioter picked up the gun, looked around for the magazine, pointed a gun at the cops, got no response whatsoever, then looked down some more (for the magazine), then placed a yellow cap in his head and ducked quietly away, all without being noticed by the multiple cops just a few feet away, all merely COINCIDENTALLY.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Why does this need to be spelled out to you?

The “plan” could have been



Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5217 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Ok so the guy points a gun at police, they all see him, and none of them react to it at all?!?!

None of that makes sense.


If he is there to stoke the flames, then his job is to make some kind of action that will trigger escalation. Very Sirhan Sirhan ( he is programed to point the gun pointed a gun with blanks and someone else shot RFK) The whole MKultra programming scenario if you have read upon it.

He points the gun, gets no immediate reaction, slinks back into the crow. My guess is the magazine is full of blanks. it is possible that the blank was a dud round and di not go off.

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8257 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:45 pm to
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The one fact from that video is those officers knew that gun was not lethal..


Its not even a fact that the guy is holding a gun or that there was even a gun or a magazine on the ground. Dropping (or more like tossing in the video) a fully loaded magazine knowing its going to hit a hard floor is fricking weird move if you are wanting to ensure its functional or appears functional. Even a empty one it seems he would place it on the ground to avoid chance of damaging it.

Also strange that there would be no reaction from the other protesters at the site of one of their fellow protestors pointing a gun at the police and about to go out in blaze of glory mere feet from them.

Now if the "facts" and narrative as stated by the OP are true then its truly a strange series of actions we are witnessing but that is hard to determine based on the quality of the video.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20841 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:20 pm to
You’re being a jackass again. Time to take take your medications
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39242 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:26 pm to
They may be actors and not officers. In fact I’m going to assume this.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2780 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:49 pm to
That entire thing looks so staged. Not just the gun and magazine blatantly dropped by the Capitol Police Officer. The protesters look like they're actors.
WTF.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2780 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Sure it does. The dude who picked the gun up is a Fed.


Yup.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2780 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:58 pm to
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but it’s as plausible an explanation than any other, and MORE plausible that the cop intentionally threw down a magazine, and someone else dropped a gun, and a totally unrelated person rioter picked up the gun, looked around for the magazine, pointed a gun at the cops, got no response whatsoever, then looked down some more (for the magazine), then placed a yellow cap in his head and ducked quietly away, all without being noticed by the multiple cops just a few feet away, all merely COINCIDENTALLY.


Yep. Just a coincidence. Nothing to see here... Don't be a "conspiracy theorist," now. Right SFP?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86605 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Not just the gun and magazine blatantly dropped by the Capitol Police Officer


Doesn’t appear “dropped” to me. The magazine bounced off the wall it looks like. Even a regular mag ejection wouldn’t hit the wall.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119852 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 4:02 pm to
I love watching you pontificate about shite you don’t know anything about as if you are an expert. It is a beautiful thing to watch.
Posted by diehard24
Member since Oct 2006
490 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 4:29 pm to
1) why would they plant evidence in an public building in full view of security camera that they would have obviously known about???

2) there is no benefit to separating the magazine from the gun if you are trying to leave it for someone else to find

3)its weird as frick how they don't react to anything when he points it at them. cant explain that. even if I know it doesn't have a magazine, and I personally inspected the chamber, I'm not staying still while it's being pointed at me.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119852 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 4:50 pm to
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1) why would they plant evidence in an public building in full view of security camera that they would have obviously known about???


They were assured that they were protected.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8257 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 5:24 pm to
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there is no benefit to separating the magazine from the gun if you are trying to leave it for someone else to find


No benefit to tossing a magazine like a piece of trash on to a hard floor....especially loaded but even unloaded...its bizarre....that why I'm not sure that's wht it is in the video.

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weird as frick how they don't react to anything when he points it at them. cant explain that. even if I know it doesn't have a magazine, and I personally inspected the chamber, I'm not staying still while it's being pointed at me.


Really wierd .....if its a really a gun in his hand.no one reacted the cops or the other protestors..again I'm not convinced that was a gun in his hand
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2154 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 5:54 pm to
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The magazine is irrelevant. Those LEO would have been justified to open fire on a firearm without a magazine (as if they'd even know). Tamir Rice ring a bell?


That one guy had no issue shooting an unarmed 110lb woman who was literally surrounded by police. There’s no way those officers wouldn’t respond when someone points a pistol at them.

It’s certainly possible that a magazine full of blanks was dropped along with a pistol. Fire a couple of rounds, cause panic and confusion. Lend credence to the theory that bloodthirsty insurrectionists were attacking.
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