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re: Minneapolis shooter confessed he was ‘tired of being trans’

Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:10 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61427 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:10 am to
You make baseless accusations and then your feelings get hurt when you can't defend them.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61427 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:13 am to
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I assumed it based on other things you’ve posted.



Specifically what things ?

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Do you not support affirming care?


I have never supported trans ideology or affirming care.

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is this a recent development?

No.

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Do you use preferred pronouns?

Generally yes, because triggering or escalating a mentally ill person is not something I delight in or find productive.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:14 am to
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You make baseless accusations



And you write paragraphs without saying anything.

Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11707 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:17 am to
Man, you're even a personal expert on this particular troon? You truly are an amazing and tireless person.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19998 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:23 am to
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Do you use preferred pronouns?


Can someone explain what exactly this accomplishes?

If you address someone as to what exactly they are, why would someone be offended?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61427 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:28 am to
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If you address someone as to what exactly they are, why would someone be offended?



It just depends on how you view the situation. Do you see a mentally ill person desperately trying to convince the world of something and decide to refer to that person as the gender they are presenting as vs do you see a mentally ill person who deserves to be antagonized and ridiculed?
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8249 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:30 am to
“Cry it out” was never going to be a viable treatment for mental health issues
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:31 am to
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no better way to prove you are a white male DEMOCRAT beta than shooting up a school
You're welcome.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196572 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:33 am to
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It just depends on how you view the situation. Do you see a mentally ill person desperately trying to convince the world of something and decide to refer to that person as the gender they are presenting as vs do you see a mentally ill person who deserves to be antagonized and ridiculed?
OK I'll play along and then you'll ignore it



This individual is a known TikTokker that purposely puts themselves in situations to where they can be misgendered according to their description and then feign outrage and try to get free meals and money to continue their attention seeking behavior

So how does this person deserve to be treated?



Notice I used the inclusive language in overt sarcasm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19998 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:34 am to
Referring to a man as a man and a woman as a woman is antagonizing or ridiculing said person?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16385 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:35 am to
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Referring to a man as a man and a woman as a woman is antagonizing or ridiculing said person?


World has gone to shite.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63076 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:35 am to
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Generally yes, because triggering or escalating a mentally ill person is not something I delight in or find productive.


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I have never supported trans ideology or affirming care.


Ok. You also said this…

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The consensus here seems to be that further excluding and dehumanizing trans people


Can you define dehumanizing? To what were you referring? Can you give an example?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63076 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:37 am to
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It just depends on how you view the situation. Do you see a mentally ill person desperately trying to convince the world of something and decide to refer to that person as the gender they are presenting as vs do you see a mentally ill person who deserves to be antagonized and ridiculed?


More importantly, does how you interact cause harm to that person and or society by the way you interact with them?

You can make a pretty strong argument that pacifying them like you seem to suggest has been catastrophic for everyone.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17615 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:38 am to
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His psychosis predated the trans stuff by a while. The trans shite was clearly a symptom of a much larger psychological problem for this particular individual.

His obsession with doing a mass shooting predated his trans shite by almost a decade. I don't think the trans stuff really had much impact on the larger picture.

Now the nihilism? That seems to have contributed greatly. People are focusing on the less important variable (trans shite) and not the one that's emerging as a legit threat (the online culture of nihilism in the youth) , like the IVF bomber that had partisanship relating to abortion incorrectly attributed to his worldview/manifesto. The IVF guy was a more extreme example promoting Efilism, but the underlying nihilism is the recurring theme.


So he was trans because of his mental issues, he didn't have mental issues because he was trans. I think most would agree with that.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20202 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:43 am to
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Transgender mass shooter Robin Westman confessed that he “was tired of being trans”


That’s sounds like it was a choice he made, but I’ve been assured that trans was not a choice, but an innate characteristic.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10193 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:19 pm to
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“I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,” he wrote, according to a translation by The Post.

“I can’t cut my hair now as it would be embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. It just always gets in my way. I will probably chop it on the day of the attack. “


It's pretty freaking sad that his parents enabled his behavior as a minor rather than being real parents and stepping in to straighten him out or get him the psychological help he undoubtedly needed. In the end, it was pride that got him. He was too proud to admit that he was in the wrong to have wanted to identify as female. He didn't want to deal with "embarrassing defeat."

I doubt that there is a single person here who doesn't have something in their past that causes some internal wincing upon reflection, knowing just how embarrassing it would be to come clean about some incident in the past.

Proverbs 16:18 rings so true time after time: "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

Innocents lives were taken yesterday, families were shattered, and a confused young man's soul condemned irredeemably to hell all because of pride. (It's very telling that they continue to call it "Pride Month" and "Pride Week" and hold their "Pride Parades.")
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:23 pm to
I’m going to quote SFP here

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This guy was obsessed with committing a mass shooting since Sandy Hook, almost a decade before the GD emerged, when he was still very young. Someone crazy enough to build their sense of self around mass shooting being crazy enough to think they're trans years later is certainly on brand.
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This cannot be said enough
It is akin to a cancerous tumor that has gone unchecked and spread and caused cancerous tumors in other areas of the body
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19998 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:24 pm to
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You can make a pretty strong argument that pacifying them like you seem to suggest has been catastrophic for everyone.


It's the equivalent of mothers telling their children that people pick on them because they're "just jealous of them."
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:27 pm to
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“I can’t cut my hair now as it would be embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. "
What does he mean by "could get me reported"?

Reported to whom? For cutting his hair??
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173788 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:28 pm to
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His psychosis predated the trans stuff by a while. The trans shite was clearly a symptom of a much larger psychological problem for this particular individual.

His obsession with doing a mass shooting predated his trans shite by almost a decade. I don't think the trans stuff really had much impact on the larger picture.

Now the nihilism? That seems to have contributed greatly. People are focusing on the less important variable (trans shite) and not the one that's emerging as a legit threat (the online culture of nihilism in the youth) , like the IVF bomber that had partisanship relating to abortion incorrectly attributed to his worldview/manifesto. The IVF guy was a more extreme example promoting Efilism, but the underlying nihilism is the recurring theme.


While that's all true, people want simple answers and want a group to rage about. Particularly when that group isn't like them.
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