re: Media Gaslighting AGAIN on this Kimmel/free speech.Preying on uneducated in our society

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The "FCC" didn't threaten anyone. A single FCC commissioner, 1 of 5, made some comments. He has one vote. The "FCC" as a regulatory body did nothing regarding Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel.

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If that's the case then the first amendment is not in play here.

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But, even if that were the case, the FCC is a regulatory body whose sole purpose is to regulate broadcast television and radio. It is 100 percent within their purview to investigate and ensure that no rules were being broken.

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Absolutely, and I'm not up to speed on FCC rules to know whether any were broken here.

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If any investigation into TV shows is a violation of free speech, then why do we even have the FCC?

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Investigation is fine. Nobody is arguing otherwise. Threats to pull licenses over purely political speech where no FCC rule was broken would be crossing the line. I'm not suggesting that's what happened here, just pointing out that the first amendment does indeed protect against consequences of speech in certain situations.

This. I'm shocked any late night shows are still on. Ratings are terrible and will never get better.

We watched Late Night because we got to see movie stars tell us stories of their lives with a comedic slant to it. It was the only outlet for this info other than a few magazines.

Now, you know everything about a movie, the stars and the gossip before the movie even comes out.

Late Night is nothing but a bad time killer and there are a zillion streaming platforms that ALWAYS have something better to watch. I'm shocked they've held onto any ratings at all.

well... this isnt a free speech issue because unlike the Twitter case, the government isnt forcing censorship. In the private sector, speech has consequences.

Kimmel made a big error. He was already skating on razor thin ice due to the failures of his show. Then he decided to lie on national TV about a pending murder case. That opens the network up to litigation and could potentially taint juries (if you really want to get persnickety).

There were zero tears shed for Alex Jones when he got fricking blown off the face of the planet over the Sandy Hook stuff. I'm failing to see the difference.

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday took part in an Instagram Live Q&A during which she said Congress was looking into media literacy initiatives following the deadly Capitol attack on Wednesday that was fueled by misinformation.

“I do think that several members of Congress and some of my discussions have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here,” Ocasio-Cortez said during the event.

“And we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation. It’s one thing to have differing opinions, but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false.”

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From 2021 but this has been mentioned by more people than her. Screw these people in the media that intentionally rile everyone up and just sit back and watch the chaos.



AOC doesn't like media spreading false information

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If, however, Chicken banned you for criticizing the Biden administration because the Biden administration threatened to shut Tigerdroppings down if he didn't ban you, that's a whole nother ball of wax and absolutely implicates the first amendment.

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Precisely what Biden did with Twitter. Also…while the FCC didn’t do this here, it was involved in the Tucker firing. Jimmy Kimmel laughed about that.

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ABC wanted to get rid of Kimmel,

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This.

It's a business decision couched as a reaction to criticism. The late-night show format is an antiquate relic of a past era of TV. ABC/Disney is seizing on an opportunity to end the show without having to honor the current contracts in place, including Kimmel's.

It's no different than when a university tries to find a way to fire an underperforming HC with "cause"

I see part of the issue as how difficult it is to prove libel or defamation in a court of law. Kimmel made his proclamation not only without basis in fact, but actually against a plethora of information that suggested otherwise. And he used his platform to do it. If he were dragged into court to defend himself every time he said something of this nature, this behavior would be curbed.

And FWIW, I HATE that this is where we need to go. It's a very slippery slope - but the consequences of doing nothing, and letting this continue, will result in another unstable person getting worked up to the point that they commit another CK assassination. It's time the left takes responsibility for their rhetoric and realize they need to think before they speak. That used to be an accepted norm in society.

An employer (ABC) can fire an employee (Kimmel) as they wish. Especially if that employee tarnishes the companies image or goes against policy.

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FCC shouldn’t be driving this, but affiliates pulling out is the market at work.

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This. I have no idea how convoluted the requirement/expectations for an FCC license are, and maybe they're technically in the wrong, but it would be much better if public pressure drove this. It doesn't need to come from DC.

I don’t see it as “purely political speech”. He lied on the platform ABC provides him about a known fact in a murder case to support his political stance. It’s not like he said “I don’t like Trump”, which is an opinion, he lied about the killer’s stated motives which had already been shown in the facts presented by law enforcement.