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re: Matt Walsh on affordability
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:26 pm to Powerman
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:26 pm to Powerman
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There is no evidence to back this statement
So you do not believe there is “evidence” that the cost of prepared foods are directly correlated to the cost of labor?
Interesting.
What do you think the highest “cost” a restaurant has is?
I’d like to flesh this out and understand your evidence.
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:33 pm to Midtiger farm
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The problem is all the GOPe doesn’t think all this stuff being made overseas isn’t a problem and hasn’t been an issue for the last 30 years
I understand that there are some things that you want to have the ability to manufacture here for security reasons, but the bottom line is that the more stuff like that that we make here against economic efficiency, the more it's going to cost the economy.
It doesn't matter whether the higher cost is a function of higher domestic labor and regulatory costs or tariffs. Either way, it's an economic drain.
And more jobs doesn't even it out. We already retained the vast, vast majority of higher tech and higher paying manufacturing jobs. They never left. It's the plastic tubing factory that went overseas, which in the states would probably employ people at around $17/$18 an hour.
Make the argument that we need to make our own plastic tubing for medical supplies for security reasons all you want, and I won't argue it. But in a thread about a crisis of affordability, re-shoring those jobs nudges things in the wrong direction.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:35 am to David_DJS
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Lockdowns were economic abortion and Trump was stupid to have greased the skids
I can’t argue with that. The lockdowns happened before funding, though. It would be interesting to play it back with a president who really dug in his heels from the beginning. I suspect what would have happened is a deep recession and a Democrat sweep of the government in 2020.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:55 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Poso v Catturd is the influencer fight we need.
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His boss Israel first Ben isn’t going to like this. He is very adamant no one should retire and everyone should be happy working to provide for Israel here
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Demorats running on affordability is a farce. Nobody asks them any questions about what they would do to improve affordability. Tax billionaires? That’ll do it. That’s all they have.
What will they do? Specifically what legislation would they actively work on to pass?
First off, no media outlet will ask. Second, the answer would obviously be…
Crickets!
What will they do? Specifically what legislation would they actively work on to pass?
First off, no media outlet will ask. Second, the answer would obviously be…
Crickets!
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:39 am to wackatimesthree
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But in a thread about a crisis of affordability, re-shoring those jobs nudges things in the wrong direction.
Typical Bush rep talking point. Call yourself a conservative but haven't conserved shite about the way of life in this country in your life time
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regulatory costs
GOP e been campaigning on this for 40 years and when push comes to shove they let their Wall street and corporate buddies capture regulatory agencies and cut out competition
Bring up any trust law enforcement to your ilk and yall meltdown like the losing pussies yall are
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stuff like that that we make here against economic efficiency,
its only not economically efficient to make a lot of this stuff here because the govt has been making it that way for 50 years
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:55 am to Midtiger farm
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Typical Bush rep talking point. Call yourself a conservative but haven't conserved shite about the way of life in this country in your life time
Typical low IQ populist word salad that makes no argument, just name calls.
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GOP e been campaigning on this for 40 years and when push comes to shove they let their Wall street and corporate buddies capture regulatory agencies and cut out competition
Yep. So what? What does that have to do with tariffs? The Republican Party doesn't follow through on campaign promises, so we'll show 'em by fricking up the economy even more? Good plan, Jethro.
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its only not economically efficient to make a lot of this stuff here because the govt has been making it that way for 50 years
Demonstrably false.
The average Chinese factory worker makes $6 an hour. The average Mexican factory worker makes $4 an hour. The average American factory worker makes $17 an hour. Not to mention the cost of real estate in those countries relative to the US.
And that has nothing to do with any policies the government has enacted. Purely a function of the relative development of the economies.
If your tiny brain cannot process how tripling or quadrupling the labor cost doesn't massively impact the efficiency of production, I really can't help.
Y'all need to get better arguments. Maybe you should go back to 2016 when Bernie Sanders was campaigning in favor of tariffs and see what his democratic socialist arguments were. (Hint...they were the same ones you're making now).
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:19 am to wackatimesthree
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Yes, we generally are much more prosperous and comfortable than our great grandparents. We are much more prosperous and comfortable than people in third world countries. That’s true. It’s also an incredibly unpersuasive and irrelevant answer to the affordability crisis. You would not be satisfied with ineffective and counterproductive medical treatments just because it’s still better than the treatments your ancestors received. You would not be satisfied with a car that only goes 20 miles an hour just because it’s still faster than the horse and buggy your great great grandpa drove around. You would not be satisfied with a house with a leaky roof just because it at least shields you from the elements better than the mud hut African tribesmen live in. We are an advanced modern first world country. We are supposed to be the greatest country in the world. That’s the standard we should hold ourselves to. And in that country — not an African country, not a country in 1887 — a working man should be able to afford a house and groceries. That’s not entitlement. It’s not expecting the government to solve everything for us. It doesn’t mean that those things should be provided via government program. It’s just simply the most basic imaginable standard. If we’re falling short of it — and we are — then we need to figure out why, and how to fix it. It’s that simple. This really shouldn’t be controversial.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:35 am to wackatimesthree
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Good plan
yall don't have any plan - except not to govern when you have control of Senate and House and then get your arse kicked in midterms and go on fox news and talk about "how different things would be if the GOP were in charge"
When is the last time you saw any GOPe politician pushing to make trade agreements that favor avg Americans? not just talking but taking action
When has a Bush era republican actually cut regulations - Regulatory laws grew in W Bush's 2 terms. People like Romney, and Ryan, and Thune haven't done shite
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What does that have to do with tariffs?
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economy even more?
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tariffs and see what his democratic socialist arguments
I guess Ronald Reagan was a DSA memeber and fricked up our economy
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And that has nothing to do with any policies the government has enacted
It's cute that you think this - just keep on losing buddy
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The iran war and 35 years of illegal immigration, ignoring anti trust laws are a way bigger drain on the current economy than Trump's tarriffs
Tarriffs have cost the avg American household $1000 in 16months time
Iran war has cost them $1000 in 5months
No telling how much illegal immigration the H1B visa scam has cost them
If you had it your way we would import everything because everyone makes things cheaper than US
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:42 am to Midtiger farm
Matt is asking for a recession/depression to reset things whether he knows it or not……the better alternative is to make everyone more productive….. 
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:38 am to Midtiger farm
bush had a great plan for making houses affordable, make it easy for everyone to buy a house rather they can afford it or not regardless of their credit worthiness! in 2004 we moved to phoenix, bought a house for 369k within a year that house was worth 500k, we got transferred to chicagoland in 2007, and i was lucky to get out of that house for what i paid for it, a year later the guy i sold it too was 100k under water. see affordable housing!
by the way the "corporate buying of single family homes thing" was the direct result of the bush housing price collapse.
matt's chosen a side and he's got subscriptions to sell.
and pimpin aint easy.
before WW2 banks required a 50% down payment to buy a house. my grand parents never owned a house.
by the way the "corporate buying of single family homes thing" was the direct result of the bush housing price collapse.
matt's chosen a side and he's got subscriptions to sell.
and pimpin aint easy.
before WW2 banks required a 50% down payment to buy a house. my grand parents never owned a house.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:59 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:20 pm to E Redcoat
reagan wielded tariffs like a battle axe boy thanks to him 90% of japanese branded cars are now made in the USA but it all happened before you born.
the cato institute called reagan the most isolationist president since coolidge.
enjoy the home you'll never own.
the cato institute called reagan the most isolationist president since coolidge.
enjoy the home you'll never own.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I might be more comfortable and prosperous than my great grandparents, but I am noticeably less comfortable and prosperous than my parents, and appear to be less prosperous (but maybe more comfortable due to AC) than my grandparents as well.
My grandparents never struggled to afford beef at my age while working significantly lower tier jobs. They constantly ate brisket because it was cheap for them.
My grandparents never struggled to afford beef at my age while working significantly lower tier jobs. They constantly ate brisket because it was cheap for them.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:17 pm to Penrod
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I can’t argue with that. The lockdowns happened before funding, though. It would be interesting to play it back with a president who really dug in his heels from the beginning. I suspect what would have happened is a deep recession and a Democrat sweep of the government in 2020.
A Dem sweep was probable once Trump's administration put Fauci/others out front on Covid, but a deep recession? I don't think so. There would have been a very quick separation of states (and cities) between lockdowns and no/little restrictions, and the "free" part of America would have thrived, and those locked down wouldn't have agreed to be lockdown for long.
You also have to consider what the messaging would have been from fedgov/CDC if Trump hadn't taken the knee. It wouldn't have been tailored to support all the restrictive shite.
Imagine how different everything would have been if natural immunity had been acknowledged, and if the population of those truly in harm's way of Covid had been delineated - the very old/frail, the morbidly obese with a handful of comorbidities ... and it was not kids, adults under about 45, healthy adults under about 70. Who's locking shite down with the NIH/CDC preaching that?
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:19 pm to Zgeo
quote:Still do it now.
Eat peanut butter and white bread…..didn’t hurt me…
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:22 pm to wackatimesthree
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Tariffs only make it worse
So does empire building, but you are more than ok with that
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:25 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
TRUMPs real disappointment has been deficit spending....he is doing the same as the DEMS!!!!
DEMS will win the midterms, sorry, but it prolly will happen.
DEMS will win the midterms, sorry, but it prolly will happen.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:35 pm to wackatimesthree
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We already retained the vast, vast majority of higher tech and higher paying manufacturing jobs. They never left. It's the plastic tubing factory that went overseas, which in the states would probably employ people at around $17/$18 an hour
Where are you getting this information? We certainly shipped way more than just plastic tubing overseas. We have to start manufacturing things here. Not to export them. These other countries rely on their ability to export products. We don’t need to.
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