re: Massie is evidently going after Trump. He's big mad over Iran.

He may want to read a history book. Maybe he needs to read this: LINK

Or maybe this:

two congressional war authorizations—the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) and the 2002 Iraq AUMF— serve as the legal basis for military operations against suspected terrorist groups abroad.

You see, CONGRESS HAS ALREADY VOTED ON IT!



And here is that history lesson (provided by Defcon1):

First Barbary War (1801–1805): This conflict began when the Pasha of Tripoli declared war on the United States. President Thomas Jefferson responded by deploying naval forces without seeking a formal declaration of war from Congress.

Second Barbary War (1815): President James Madison sought and received congressional authorization to use military force against Algiers, but this was not a formal declaration of war

What other military action has the US participated without declaring war?

The United States has engaged in numerous military actions without formally declaring war. Some notable examples include:

Korean War (1950-1953): This was termed a "police action" and was conducted under the auspices of the United Nations.

Vietnam War (1955-1975): U.S. involvement escalated without a formal declaration of war, relying instead on congressional resolutions like the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.

Persian Gulf War (1990-1991): This was authorized by a United Nations resolution and congressional approval but not a formal war declaration.

The U.S. participated in NATO's bombing campaign during the Kosovo War in 1999. This was part of Operation Allied Force, aimed at stopping the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo by Serbian forces under Slobodan Miloševic. The campaign lasted from March to June 1999 and involved extensive airstrikes on military targets in Yugoslavia, including in Kosovo and Serbia.

The operation was controversial, as it was conducted without a formal United Nations mandate, but NATO justified it as a humanitarian intervention. It ultimately led to the withdrawal of Yugoslav forces from Kosovo and the establishment of a UN-administered territory.
Afghanistan (2001-present): Military action began following the 9/11 attacks, authorized by Congress but not declared as a war.

Iraq War (2003-2011): Similar to Afghanistan, this was authorized by Congress but not formally declared as a war.

Other actions:

The U.S. has been involved in military actions against Libya on multiple occasions:1986 Bombing of Libya (Operation El Dorado Canyon): This was a U.S. airstrike in response to Libyan involvement in terrorist attacks, including the bombing of a Berlin nightclub. The operation targeted military sites in Tripoli and Benghazi.

Ther actions where war was not declared:

2011 NATO Intervention: The U.S. played a significant role in the NATO-led military intervention during the Libyan Civil War. This was conducted under the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, which authorized a no-fly zone and measures to protect civilians. The intervention contributed to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

2015–2019 Campaign Against ISIL: The U.S. carried out airstrikes and drone strikes in Libya as part of the international campaign against ISIL. These operations targeted ISIL.

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Iran’s leaders have used terrorism since they took power in 1979. Over 35 years later, Iran continues to use terrorism and to work with an array of violent substate groups that use terrorism among other tactics. - Brookings Institute

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Iran’s support for the Lebanese Hizballah, Palestine Islamic Jihad, Hamas, and the backing of Houthis in Yemen give it influence on Saudi Arabia’s southern border.

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An Iran with a nuclear weapon would be a more dangerous force in the region, and preventing this should be a priority for any U.S. administration.

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You should stop posting now

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Iran’s leaders have used terrorism since they took power in 1979. Over 35 years later, Iran continues to use terrorism and to work with an array of violent substate groups that use terrorism among other tactics. - Brookings Institute

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You mean according to the Globalist Think-Tank Brookings Institute?

That's a naw dawg from me. But thanks anyway.

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Now try and justify ANY war

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I don't need to justify it. All I needed to do was cite the laws and the history along with SCOTUS rulings to prove Trump does not need a declaration of war because our... wait for it... CONSTITUTION affords him powers to act.

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People act like there is either business as usual or all out war. We aren't invading Iran or Yemen. Neither are invading us. They are about to lose some key assets though.

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Correct. There is nothing wrong with flexing the world’s most expensive military when a few decide to mess around. Better than not using it and them getting away with it like how it was under Biden.

Muslims, every last one of them, are disgusting. Annihilate them and be quick about it. No war if they are all obliterated. When the villains fall, the kingdom won't weep.

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Why do we have to be world police? I would have just voted for Nikki if I wanted dumb aggressive foreign policy. What happened to the peacemaker who cuts deals?

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They are firing on USA ships. Go away.

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Question: What do YOU, your family and community personally gain from a totally unnecessary war with Iran? Are you willing to lay some skin in the game?

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1. I don't know what you're talking about regarding an unnecessary war with Iran. I don't see anything going on that will lead to a war. Unless Iran escalates it, which is highly unlikely.

2. Sure, I've had skin in the game. I registered with the selective services board at 18, could have been called into service at any point if war broke out and they reinstitute the draft. They wouldn't take me now, too old, but I had skin in the game when it was appropriate for me to do so, and that was back during the Cold War when the US faced the biggest external military threat we've ever faced. And I didn't run around menstruating about it like you're doing here.

The whole, "Do you have skin in the game?" bullshite ignores that, but it's a reality. All non-disabled American males either still have or at one time had skin in the game.

Do you think we’re going to war with Iran?

Be honest

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What happened to the peacemaker who cuts deals?

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Unfortunately, explosions are the only language much of the Middle East understands.