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re: Mamdani takes on the nuisance of illegal e-bikes exactly the way a commie would

Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Did your daughter vote for him?


I dont think she voted because she is not a resident. Has been travel nursing up there. Buttttt, she would have. completely brainwashed in last couple yrs
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Because, the purchaser and user are the ones ultimately breaking the law.


Correct they are but when the law also says it is illgal to sale or adverside for sale in NY then the seller is also on the hook for the sale.

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It's not a lot different than how some states have dispensaries and others don't. I'm in SC and can't legally get weed here... if I procure weed from a legal state, I'm still on the hook if I get busted with it in SC.


If they SHIP it to you in SC they are on the hook too. If you buy it in a legal state and transport or ship it to SC then they are not controvening laws.

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I know this isn't *exactly* the same as presumably online retailers such as Target, Walmart and others are selling directly to NYC residents.. but I still feel it is on the end user to follow applicable laws in their jurisdiction.


The law says both you can not operate certain vehicles but it also says you can't sale or advertise them for sale in NY. I think later you mentioned something about how do they know Target has sold ebikes etc that controvene the laws. That doesn't matter if they have advertised them for sale in NY then they are breaking the law. A corollary is I buy pest control chemicals from an online seller that sales to customers without a state pest control license. There are certain chemicals that can't be sold in various states. The item page has a list of states they can not ship that item to. You can not put it in your cart and put in your address and go to the payment page. If you can get to the payment page on Target's site with a escooter etc that the sale and advertising is prohibited in NY with a NY adress typed in then thay have advertised for sale in NY and have broken the law.
Posted by OU81TOO
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Obtuse1

That big government cock must taste sooo good....
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:23 pm to
because he's trying to prosecute online retailers for selling products legally rather than the locals who are violating the local laws.

Blue cities already tried this with gun manufacturers and got fricking destroyed in court.

of course you can't see the problem.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:24 pm to
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it is illgal to sale or adverside for sale in NY


they are ONLINE RETAILERS. everyone on earth can see their websites.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 2:29 pm to
They are not illegal to own. They are illegal to ride on NYC public streets without a tag or registration because they are then considered as a motorcycle or scooter. So he is going after a retailer for selling something that is not illegal to own. Ok well there are a lot of vehicles that are not legal to carry on public streets in many other states and cities but people still have them because they are not illegal to own. They own them then carry them to places they are legal to ride. This is straight up communism.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:00 pm to
Has anyone broken the news to him that he has no authority to do such? I suppose he could limit their use on the streets through city council vote. That's different.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31046 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:03 pm to
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because he's trying to prosecute online retailers for selling products legally rather than the locals who are violating the local laws.


They are not selling them legally if they if they are advertised for sale or shipped to NY state. Period. They also enforce the prohibition of sale on local brick and mortars.

In the last couple of years NYC has given thousands of criminal summons and moving violations and seized over 1000 illegal vehicles. They are doing enforcement actions against users; whether it is enough is certainly arguable.

Ofcourse you can't articulate a problem. If you want to make an argument he should not enforce this law make it. If you are incapable of making a cogent argument, then just accept you are making the decision based in your feelings.



Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:13 pm to
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he's trying to prosecute online retailers for selling products legally


They’re doing so illegally. That’s the point.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:14 pm to
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they are ONLINE RETAILERS. everyone on earth can see their websites.


So what? They can’t sell certain e-bikes in NYC.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39295 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:16 pm to
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They are not selling them legally if they if they are advertised for sale or shipped to NY state. Period. They also enforce the prohibition of sale on local brick and mortars.
It would take blinkers and horn to make them street legal. Now what?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:18 pm to

If he’s successful, anybody wanting an e-bike can take PATH or the bus to NJ and buy one.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31046 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:23 pm to
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It would take blinkers and horn to make them street legal. Now what?


If you think that it would make the ones illegal for sale in NY legal for sale, you are wrong.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89718 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:23 pm to
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hes gonna try and take over the paid parking spots, just watch


Like the Landrieu family did in New Orleans.

Ever wonder why it’s illegal to park on the street in much of NOLA? It’s because the Landrieus own all the paid lots (and did while Mitch Bitch was mayor).
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:29 pm to
Won't the e-bike retailers sue?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39295 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:53 pm to
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If you think that it would make the ones illegal for sale in NY legal for sale, you are wrong.
Then the law is wrong. Are regular bicycles legal?
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