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re: Mamdani takes on the nuisance of illegal e-bikes exactly the way a commie would

Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:12 pm to
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But... I think the point of this thread is that ComDani is going after retailers rather than those that are actually cycling afoul of the law.

The people in possession of these illegal modes of transportation are the ones to go after- not retailers.


Certain e-bikes are illegal to sell I’m NYC, and retailers can face fines for doing so. Why aren’t retailers at least some of the ones to go after?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:15 pm to
he's the type that would sue gun manufacturers for school shootings
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:18 pm to
Is it wrong that I think this is a bad policy which prevents appropriate culling of the herd?

If you are doing 75 on a busy roadway on a scooter...

...you deserve to die.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:23 pm to
A bit fascistic.


But hey, Mussolini was a Marxist.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:24 pm to
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He’s not enforcing the law. There’s no law saying you can’t buy an electric bike in New York City.



Under New York law, e-bikes must have an electric motor of less than 750 watts, and fall into one of three classes:

Class 1, also known as low-speed pedal-assisted e-bikes, provide electric assistance only while being pedaled and only at speeds under 20 miles per hour.
Class 2, also known as low-speed throttle-assisted e-bikes, provide electric assistance up to 20 miles per hour but have a throttle that allows the rider to use the motor without pedaling.
Class 3, also known as speed throttle-assisted electric bicycles, are similar to Class 2 e-bikes, but the electric motor assistance must stop when the bicycle reaches 25 miles per hour.
All e-bikes sold in New York must have a permanent label that identifies the bike’s classification number, top assisted speed, and the wattage of its motor. It is illegal in New York to ride a Class 1 or 2 e-bike with electric assist faster than 20 miles per hour. It is also illegal to ride a Class 3 e-bike outside of New York City, or with electric assist in excess of 25 miles per hour. Riders must be at least 16 years old to legally operate any e-bike in New York state.

Under New York law, e-scooters are defined as having a maximum speed of no more than 20 miles per hour. It is illegal to ride an e-scooter in New York over 15 miles per hour. As with e-bikes, e-scooters sold in New York must have a permanent label that identifies the top assisted speed, the number of people for which it is designed and equipped, and the motor wattage. Riders must be at least 16 years old to legally operate or ride as a passenger on e-scooters in New York state. Cities, counties, and other local governments may have additional rules and ordinances regarding where and how e-bikes and e-scooters can be ridden.

Bicycles that go faster than 25 miles per hour with electric assistance in New York City, or faster than 20 miles per hour with electric assistance outside New York City, are not e-bikes under New York law, and are instead e-motos, mopeds, or motorcycles that may be subject to additional registration, licensing, and insurance requirements through the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

Businesses can only advertise or sell vehicles as e-bikes to New Yorkers if they fall within one of the three classes, and may only advertise or sell vehicles as e-scooters to New Yorkers if they meet the definition of one under New York law, including by having a top speed of 20 miles per hour or less. Businesses cannot advertise or sell vehicles that are intended to be modified to exceed legal limits of e-bikes or e-scooters. Misrepresenting the characteristics of an e-bike, e-scooter, or other vehicle, converting one for illegal use, or selling one without the required label is illegal under New York law.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:24 pm to
You have to laugh. All the dipshit students who voted for him use these things.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:26 pm to
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Explain how the laws that predated Mamdani or his enforcement action is a tenet of communism.


because communists selectively enforce laws

Why doesn't he just ignore these like he does so many others?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21924 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Too many lives have been cut short by high-speed, illegal e-bikes and e-scooters.


How many lives have been ‘cut short’? Inquiring minds want to know.

How many lives have been lost to automobiles? Will Mandami issue cease and desist orders for Toyota, Honda, Ford, and GM?
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62258 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:32 pm to
It’s the same way they look at guns. It’s not the person doing illegal thinks with guns, it’s that the inanimate gun is the problem.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:34 pm to
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Why aren’t retailers at least some of the ones to go after?


Because, the purchaser and user are the ones ultimately breaking the law.

It's not a lot different than how some states have dispensaries and others don't. I'm in SC and can't legally get weed here... if I procure weed from a legal state, I'm still on the hook if I get busted with it in SC.

I know this isn't *exactly* the same as presumably online retailers such as Target, Walmart and others are selling directly to NYC residents.. but I still feel it is on the end user to follow applicable laws in their jurisdiction.

Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10454 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:36 pm to
His continual overreach in proposing new city ordinances, creating public groceries, etc. demonstrates that he is not executing the duties of his office in good faith and thus ought to be removed from office and a successor named in hasty fashion. He needs a harsh reminder that being mayor does not grant him dictatorial powers in any way, shape, or form.

Short of that, the residents of NYC wouldn't be blamed if they suddenly performed a good, old-fashioned, literal tarring and feathering.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:37 pm to
It’s like 60 in 9 years.

That’s on illegal bikes/scooters.

And that’s just over half the total deaths on bikes/scooters in the same time (which seems to suggest the main issue isn’t the speed).

There is no breakdown I’ve seen on rider deaths on illegal scooters/e bikes while exceeding 20 mph.
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:42 pm to
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By going after the retailers that sell them, not the people using them illegally


By what authority is that legal
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64477 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Because, the purchaser and user are the ones ultimately breaking the law.


Uh, no. The law also prohibits sales, so the retailers are the ones violating that law.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:47 pm to
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The law also prohibits sales, so the retailers are the ones violating that law.


Black market ebike sellers rejoice.

Mamdani doesn't put criminals in jail anyway.
Posted by DeplorableTerrorizer
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:47 pm to
Uhh what makes an e bike illegal?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:47 pm to
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Isn’t this a key mode of transportation for poorer people?


Note ebikes, escooters. and mopeds are legal to sale in NY/NYC as long as they meet the legal requirements. Escooters that will go 70+ mph are not legal to sale.

NY and NYC outlawed all escooters initially but when they became more than a child's toy and recognizing the point you made they legalized them. They added speed/power/weight restrictions when they developed into a much more dangerous vehicle. Keep in mind they do not require registration, a license, or insurance.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64477 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:47 pm to
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By what authority is that legal


NYC law.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Uh, no. The law also prohibits sales, so the retailers are the ones violating that law.


Are the end users not also in violation? Why target one half of the criminal equation?

Also... I don't actually know that Target (and others) are direct selling to NYC residents with delivery to NYC addresses. Has that been established?

I ask because retail websites usually state if a certain product is not available for sale in a certain area. I would imagine the larger retailers would follow this.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26239 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:59 pm to
I thought the leftists believed that we were destroying the planet by driving around in gas guzzling vehicles. So why is he so against a method of transportation that's energy efficient and doesn't burn gas?
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