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re: Make Imperialism Great Again

Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:33 am to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:33 am to
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Why not if we are running it?


If that isn't the most hypocritical question of the day.

If you have to ask that, then you lose your ability to complain about globalism from the European elite, China, Russia and anyone else who wants to play. You also lose the ability to question the moves Soros makes.

You agree with everything they do. Just not them doing it.

Glad to know.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:34 am to
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You agree with everything they do. Just not them doing it


I actually do. To the victor goes the spoils. Real Politik. I have never been anti-colonialism. I am anti being colonized. I also am anti pretending you’re not colonizing places when you are. Just f$&king own it or don’t do it at all. None of this half-arsed empire crap.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 8:36 am
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2350 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:35 am to
Sure thing chief, still waiting for your response of course you can’t even comprehend balancing a budget much less something as daunting as British imperialism.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:39 am to
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I actually do. To the victor goes the spoils. Real Politik. I have never been anti-colonialism. I am anti being colonized. I also am anti pretending you’re not colonizing places when you are. Just f$&king own it or don’t do it at all. None of this half-arsed empire crap


Not often this place gives real answers.

Mostly it is just the lowest denominator playing slopulism.

Respect the answer. May no longer agree with it as I get older, but respect it anyway.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
835 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:39 am to
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I guess so, they suck the welfare teet for their riches you tyrannical little fricker.

And you want more of that.



Damn right I do. It's an arrangement that works well for them and us.

We have strategic bases there for you know, deploying aircraft to blow up drug vessels. They have military forces that we control and deploy right next to our forces overseas as well. The military pay they receive is better than most jobs there. And for the ones I've personally met, they have no issues with the US.

Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2350 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:43 am to
Puerto Rico gets far more from us than we do them, which is the opposite of imperialism.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:45 am to
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Puerto Rico gets far more from us than we do them, which is the opposite of imperialism.


Only if you have a lack of understanding of imperialism, which you obviously do.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
835 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:48 am to
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Puerto Rico gets far more from us than we do them, which is the opposite of imperialism.


The US having small-population territories works out great for both sides. We support them with funding, but in the grand scheme of our budget, it's pennies to us. But it's a lot of money to them. So, they are happy.

And the strategic importance of small territories all over is extremely valuable to us. Which is why we have quite a few.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15766 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:57 am to
It’s not globalism when we own the globe.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4261 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:05 am to
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Hegemony promoting free trade, cooperation, coordination, and the development of Western values is a really good system, especially for the US who benefits the most from this system.

That's been labeled "globalism" though.


These all sound great, but why can't we try it without outsourcing our entire manufacturing capacity, taking it up the arse with tariffs, & importing millions of "immigrants"??
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13542 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:08 am to
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Everyone else tarriffing the shite out of us has been labeled free trade.


No they haven't.

BTW, who paid those tariffs?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11389 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:34 am to
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No they haven't.

BTW, who paid those tariffs?


Yes, other countries have been tariffing the shite out of us. There's no need to lie. And it hurts our mfg companies and costs us jobs.

And what about barriers to entry? Do you want to pretend those don't exist, too?

How about companies like China subsidizing industries to the point America loses industrial capacity and jobs? Is that just free trade to you, as well?

Free trade proponents are as naive as libertarians. It doesn't exist in the real world. Pretending it does, or abiding by such principles when no one else does, only harms yourself. You guys are so principled that you don't care you are just shooting yourselves in the foot. It's such a dimwitted worldview.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:35 am to
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The requirements for law school must be real difficult lol. It must be the equivalent of Life College or DeVry, just open the door


The frick? I graduated Summa Cum Laude from LSU without even really trying very hard.

You don't want to go down this road
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:38 am to
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but why can't we try it without outsourcing our entire manufacturing capacity,


You may want to understand the facts and understand that we're still the #2 manufacturing output nation by volume and we export some of the highest per capita value products, and no country comes close to that combination of quantity and quality.

We have not "exported" our manufacturing capability and, even given that dishonest framing, haven't export our "entire" area. We dominate in manufacturing output globally.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:40 am to
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And it hurts our mfg companies

Maybe

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and costs us jobs.

Not true in the total

Maybe certain isolated jobs, but that's more than made up elsewhere.

quote:

How about companies like China subsidizing industries to the point America loses industrial capacity and jobs? Is that just free trade to you, as well?

It's not free trade but it's a huge advantage for us and, like the scenario above, creates more, better jobs in the US ultimately. China is basically subsidizing our economic development.

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Free trade proponents are as naive as libertarians. It doesn't exist in the real world. Pretending it does, or abiding by such principles when no one else does, only harms yourself.

Trying to warp this into a polar definition of "free trade" is very dishonest, almost to the point of a straw man.

But you seem to want to have our economy devolve so we increase inefficient low-level jobs that remind you of an outlier era you see with a halcyon lens.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23288 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:53 am to
GOD SAVE THE AMERICAN EMPEROR!

This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 8:13 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18553 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:54 am to
Would much rather be taking over Greenland than warmongering over in Iran. My wallet would like it too.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4261 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:35 pm to




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We dominate in manufacturing output globally.


The data seems to say otherwise. China has become #1 by a large (and growing) margin. We had a long way to fall, but we clearly seem to be falling compared to the 20th century


This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 1:36 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:42 pm to
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It’s not globalism when we own the globe


Touche
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41028 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:48 pm to
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I'm not certain adding any additional opinions to our voting populace helps anything. USA is big enough. We can add a few more territories. No more states with voting rights.


If we had Greenland, let's cut Puerto Rico loose. Grant those leeches full independence.
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