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re: Major social unrest is coming

Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:48 pm to
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My wife is an architect and has several younger architects under her supervision. They’re all making around $55K, yet they all rent and have roommates. Now this is Nashville, so housing costs are REALLY out of control, but it’s everywhere really.

No young person starting out in a professional career can afford a $400K home without serious help from their family
Maybe your wife's company should pay their employees more considering they are requiring them to work in a city where rents and homes are so expensive.

Really, those kids can't afford much of a house in the suburbs on $55k. Do you expect home prices to be less than $150k in the city?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22681 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:51 pm to
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In the last decade, the median home price rose roughly 30% and incomes crept up just 11% over the same time period.

What period is this?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73273 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:54 pm to
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My wife is an architect and has several younger architects under her supervision. They’re all making around $55K, yet they all rent and have roommates. Now this is Nashville]

That seems pretty low for the Nashville market TBH
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Now this is Nashville, so housing costs are REALLY out of control, but it’s everywhere really.

very true. My Wife and I bought our house in Franklin in June of 2018. We recently had it appraised and the appraisal came in at nearly double what we paid for it just shy of 4 years ago, and that doesn't even take into account that most homes in the area are selling above appraisal values. We are very fortunate we bought when we did. And honestly even when we bought, houses were about 60-70% more expensive than they were before that. Our home was built in, I believe 2003, and it's appraisal value is about 3x what it was originally sold for. It's insane.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
936 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:57 pm to
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housing costs are REALLY out of control


If you think housing costs are out of control book 2 rooms for each of LSU’s home games and the New Orleans kickoff game. It’s costing me a fortune.

I’m looking for a condo in BR under $100K where my car will not get broken into or an old building where I can dive in and use a camper. If anyone has any leads I would appreciate it.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7905 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:00 pm to
Nah.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4965 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:03 pm to
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No young person starting out in a professional career can afford a ... home without serious help from their family.


bullshite. Both my children and my godchild are millennials who bought homes in the last few years. All 3 started in a below median "starter home" and 2 of them just upgraded. All 3 couples are 30-32 and one of the couples did not finish college. No real help was given other than sweat equity (minor demo, painting and moving, etc.)

It can be done with hard work.

My only niece that doesn't own hasn't developed a career yet, but she will. She ain't starting any social unrest.



ETA-It is funny that some of y'all downvote me calling bullshite on this guy's obvious bullshite statement.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 8:12 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:07 pm to
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I only owned one unit so I’m pretty sure I didn’t qualify for many advantages.



just because you didnt utilize advantages doesnt mean they dont exist and artificially prop up the market.

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When I had to repair walls or fix shite tenants broke you don’t think that should be deductible to the business?


I agree with your example, I even said they weren't necessarily "bad". I see you are still stuck on nit picking 1 point. the overall point is there are tax advantages for rental income over traditional wage/salary income, which artificially inflates the demand to utilize homes for rental income and reduces the potential supply of homes for primary ownership.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:07 pm to
Can I ask where?
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
25506 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
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bullshite. Both my children and my godchild are millennials who bought homes in the last few years. All 3 started in a below median "starter home" and 2 of them just upgraded. All 3 couples are 30-32 and one of the couples did not finish college. No real help was given other than sweat equity (minor demo, painting and moving, etc.)

It can be done with hard work.

My only niece that doesn't own hasn't developed a career yet, but she will. She ain't starting any social unrest.


That's great and all but every house in my county is pre-sold before construction. There isn't a single construction home in the county that remains unsold. That's the first time in history that's happened here. Home prices have jumped 30-40% in most cases and Progress Residential is a company that is buying almost every used home that goes on the market. To get a home in my county, you have to offer $20,000 above asking price just to be in the running, and even still you likely won't get it. This has only happened in the last 2 years.

That's the Memphis area, which has classically been one of the most affordable places in the nation to live. Not anymore. This market is absolutely hurting people.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22681 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Can I ask where?

You didn't ask me, but my daughter just bought in the 5th hottest market since 2000. She's single, and has been out of school only five years.

I'll contrast her with my older daughter. She's married (no kids), and between her and her husband they make about 60% more than my younger daughter. She's 3 years older than her sister and the husband 7 years older. And my older daughter/husband today sound like you/millennials in this thread. "It's too hard" ... "it's different" ... "it's not fair" - - - but the reality is her little sister has done what she complains is impossible.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9521 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:14 pm to
There is always a trailer park.

We rented one side of a duplex. Then the owner found out I was construction manager and asked if I could make drawings and blueprints. Made enough money to pay the rent and stuff money away until we could buy a house.

Bought our first home, one of my wife's bosses had moved away and was needing to have his house bought. We rented his house for a year, bought it while renting out our first home. We built the empire from there.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7837 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:15 pm to
Architect is a tough field to hoe. Had a room mate who tried to major in it and only made one semester and switched to accounting. Architecture prof gave them a project to do with like a 4 day time limit and he did not sleep for those 4 days.

Besides low supply and high demand for housing in the Nashville area why is everyone trying to live there? Low taxes? Big refinery needs employees? New auto plant? What's the draw? As long as you have high demand and low supply the prices will go higher no matter how much you make on payday.
Corinth Mississippi has some 3br/2ba nice homes for around $200k.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157632 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:17 pm to
Nit picking?

Damn. Thought we were just have a discussion?

I’ll tone it down a bit for you.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:17 pm to
Ummm…the last decade.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:19 pm to
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I'll contrast her with my older daughter. She's married (no kids), and between her and her husband they make about 60% more than my younger daughter. She's 3 years older than her sister and the husband 7 years older.


I take it you’re into the Old Testament.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Bought our first home, one of my wife's bosses had moved away and was needing to have his house bought. We rented his house for a year, bought it while renting out our first home. We built the empire from there.


What year did your empire begin?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22681 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Ummm…the last decade.

So you're using a timeframe that starts with the market coming out of a trough from the real estate bubble as the starting point? Isn't that like Biden taking credit for creating 40 trillion jobs last year?
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4965 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Can I ask where?


BR/Goodwood area, older home they bought in December, needed updating/TLC.

Metairie, small home they renovated - upgrading to Harahan

Daphne, started in newish tract home - upgraded to Fairhope

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Besides low supply and high demand for housing in the Nashville area why is everyone trying to live there? Low taxes? Big refinery needs employees? New auto plant? What's the draw? As long as you have high demand and low supply the prices will go higher no matter how much you make on payday. Corinth Mississippi has some 3br/2ba nice homes for around $200k.


Lots of corporate HQs are moving here.
Huge corporations like Nissan, Oracle, lots of Amazon corporate, etc.

That combined with being a “fun” and relatively safe city with several universities makes it attractive. No state income tax also helps.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Nit picking?

Damn. Thought we were just have a discussion?

I’ll tone it down a bit for you.


haha we are.
do you have any comments on other advantages like stepped up basis, opportunity zones, section 1031 tax free exchange, qualified business deductions that are available/beneficial for rental income but not for a wage/salary employee income?

Again, Im not saying they are necessarily "bad", but do you consider those to be incentives/benefits that artificially influence the market? do you think the supply/demand for homes would be the same without those codes?
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 3:46 pm
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