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re: Macron says The war will end with "Pacified Russia."

Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22468 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:09 pm to
If the US actually left NATO, Macro, Starmer, and Scholz would all turn into simpering pussies.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:09 pm to
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There is no benefit for them to be fighting the way they are if they do have those reserves.


Sure about that? The US is about to drop NATO on its head. What is actually occurring on the ground is Russia making a buffer for themselves, which bolsters the notion that the EU, US, and NATO dropping their panties for Ukraine is the reason it is happening.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
7061 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Americans have no fricking clue what war looks like.

And that's fine. frick Europe. They've loved that shite forever. Let's not be like them.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2999 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:10 pm to
They are pushing for WW3 and they'll get it one way or another. Trumps knows this hence his push for getting Canada and Greenland under US control.

something about 5D chess
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74765 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Americans have no fricking clue what war looks like.


what?
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27138 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:11 pm to
We fought a war between the states on our own land.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3658 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:11 pm to
They get kickbacks for military spending just like all Neocons….
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27138 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:13 pm to
Annex Canada like Fallout 3.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Sure about that?


Yes. If they have those reserves available and mission-ready right now, then the way they are fighting makes absolutely no sense. It makes no sense in light of what has already happened too. I'm extremely skeptical of Russian logistical ability to get into Central Europe.

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What is actually occurring on the ground is Russia making a buffer for themselves


This is not their original war aim, as they wanted to reach the Carpathians as well as to topple the government in Ukraine.

The facts on the ground really don't support your point about the availability and overall quantity of Russian materiel.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Funding separatists for years and come in to play peace keeper when said country tries to crack down on separatists.


The Georgians shelled the Russian base

That stupidity is all on them

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Russia did the same exact thing in Ukraine.


The annexation of Crimea and the war don’t happen, without the coup, the crackdown on ethnic Russians, and the attempt to join NATO.

It was only after that, that war became the less expensive, and less risky option for the Russians
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2999 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:17 pm to
Trudeau will be governor of the Canadian Commonwealth
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41761 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:18 pm to
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That's fine, but Nuland running a coup, us putting 12 spy bases on the border, and having guys like Biden, McCain, and Graham constantly visiting and meddling is ridic, too. We turned that country into a vassal state and would never have tolerated Russia or China doing that in Mexico.


We already tolerate it. Cuba, a Russian vassal state who Vlad has subsidized, is only 90 miles away and Russia has threatened us with nuclear weapons over interference there. They had assets there for decades.

Russia already borders NATO nations who have “spy bases” and nothing has happened to them. No one is trying to invade Russia from NATO.

Ukraine elections were a proxy battle between Russia and the US, yes. So we won. And how is that a bad thing? I dont see Ukrainians crying to reunite with the Russian Federation.

Your Russia Today talking points are very popular on here but they lack any real substance.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17108 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Its time to:

1. Leave NATO


And the UN. Dont forget about those bastards.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41706 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Americans have no fricking clue what war looks like.


So why are the only ones who know better than to start WW3? Must be all of those realistic movies that show us what war looks like.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Yes. If they have those reserves available and mission-ready right now, then the way they are fighting makes absolutely no sense. It makes no sense in light of what has already happened too. I'm extremely skeptical of Russian logistical ability to get into Central Europe.


So the US essentially shuttering NATO doesn’t make a difference to Russia in the grand scheme of things? I disagree.

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The facts on the ground really don't support your point about the availability and overall quantity of Russian materiel.


They certainly don’t support the notion that Russia believes they are in an all out war with Ukraine. Are the nightclubs still booming in Kiev?
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:23 pm to
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And the UN. Dont forget about those bastards.


We don’t have to leave the UN. We just don’t need to fund a third of its global operations anymore.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41706 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Ukraine elections were a proxy battle between Russia and the US, yes. So we won. And how is that a bad thing? I dont see Ukrainians crying to reunite with the Russian Federation.


If this current war is bad, then its bad we won that proxy battle.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:25 pm to
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So the US essentially shuttering NATO doesn’t make a difference to Russia in the grand scheme of things? I disagree.



That isn't a response to your assertion about Russian reserve materiel. They do not have those types of reserves available. If they do and are choosing to fight they way they are, then they are retarded. And I don't believe they are retarded.

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They certainly don’t support the notion that Russia believes they are in an all out war with Ukraine. Are the nightclubs still booming in Kiev?


You realize that even during World War II, life went on where there wasn't an active front, right?

They certainly do not have 10k tanks like you suggested, and nothing about the way they conduct war suggests they have the logistic capability to send those tanks across Central Europe soon.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2243 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:28 pm to
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hey certainly don’t support the notion that Russia believes they are in an all out war with Ukraine. Are the nightclubs still booming in Kiev?


I would say based on the units engaged in combat, events that have taken place during this war, and the fact that they are in year 4 of this thing they do believe they are in an all out war. But to answer your question yes I guess clubs in kiev are still booming
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