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re: Macron says The war will end with "Pacified Russia."
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:29 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:29 pm to crazy4lsu
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What's their other option? Start WWIII against Russia, USA, and Japan while other European countries hop on our side? Good fricking luck.
This would never happen, my god.
It would never happen because they would get steam rolled and it would never come to it.
Are you saying Russia would never side with the US? Not even to advance both economies and get a better trade agreement with the countries they already do business with, while also showing their power/ influence? I think that's a no brainer for them. What do they lose here?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:32 pm
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:31 pm to crazy4lsu
The Russians wanted all of Ukraine under their control, or at least as a puppet state like Belarus. They invaded the fricking capitol city after all. That was the main effort of invasion and it failed miserably. They lost. Since then they’ve been playing the long game of attrition hoping to wear the Ukrainians down.
The question is how long do we can continue to finance the war. I’m personally agnostic of the Russo Ukraine war. If Europe wants to fund it, arm it, fight in it then have fun guys. I’m sure the US MIC will be more than happy to sell you a bunch of bullets. It would also help if Europe would quit funding Russia’s war effort by buy energy from Putin.
And you’re right, the Russian military could realistically invade central and Western Europe then taking Ukraine should’ve been easy. They may very well have a stockpile of 10000 tanks sitting around but they certainly don’t have the troops to man them or the spare parts and ammo to make them worth more than big arse paper weight.
The question is how long do we can continue to finance the war. I’m personally agnostic of the Russo Ukraine war. If Europe wants to fund it, arm it, fight in it then have fun guys. I’m sure the US MIC will be more than happy to sell you a bunch of bullets. It would also help if Europe would quit funding Russia’s war effort by buy energy from Putin.
And you’re right, the Russian military could realistically invade central and Western Europe then taking Ukraine should’ve been easy. They may very well have a stockpile of 10000 tanks sitting around but they certainly don’t have the troops to man them or the spare parts and ammo to make them worth more than big arse paper weight.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:32 pm to dchog
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We fought a war between the states on our own land.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:34 pm to Dantheman504
Macron plating Napoleon wont go well for him.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:34 pm to Drizzt
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Only thing is Frenchy couldn’t hold Russia’s jockstrap in a real war.
Do people actually believe this? Russia can’t even take Ukraine and still resorts to meat wave tactics.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:35 pm to Dantheman504
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Are you saying Russia would never side with the US?
I'm saying that yes, as it stands, the US would never side with Russia in a conflict with Europe.
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Not even to advance both economies and get a better trade agreement with the countries they already do business with, while also showing their power/ influence?
It wouldn't advance our economy all that much, and there are several European economies that are wealthier already.
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I think that's a no brainer for them. What do they lose here?
The US loses a lot.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:36 pm to Harry Boutte
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Americans have no fricking clue what war looks like.
Let's keep it that way. Looks like France can more than handle military operations for the EU.
Have you thanked the 101st today?
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:36 pm to cwil177
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Do people actually believe this? Russia can’t even take Ukraine and still resorts to meat wave tactics.
It's crazy that we are still getting people suggesting that the Russians aren't putting their full weight into Ukraine.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:38 pm to msu202020
Macron can't pacify the Muslims in his own country.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:38 pm to crazy4lsu
These are most likely people that started following the war in January and think the Russian military in real life is how they are portrayed in movies and in video games
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:39 pm to msu202020
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Have you thanked the 101st today?
Why should I thank them?
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:40 pm to Dantheman504
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1. Leave NATO
2. Make a deal with Russia for minerals, oil, and a ceasefire.
3. Make a deal with Russia to cut ALL oil going to Europe from both the US and Russia.
5. Increase tariffs/ sanctions on Europe.
6. Make all of Europe renegotiate a deal with both the US and Russia on oil and other commodities at an increased price for peace.
LEAVE NATO TODAY
I wonder if the "usual suspects" like Russian and SFP STILL CAN'T SEE THAT THIS STUPID WAR IS ALL ABOUT MONEY?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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The US loses a lot.
Are you that dense?
The US would get:
1. A mineral and gas deal with Russia
2. A peace agreement with Russia/ Europe
3. Additional money in trade agreements (that by itself is a large gain and makes your comment ignorant)
4. Respect and a show of united power/ peace
The only group of people that see USA gains as a "loss" are terrorists and brain dead Democrats (terrorists).
Yeah world peace is a big loss for pieces of shite.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:42 pm to LARancher1991
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These are most likely people that started following the war in January and think the Russian military in real life is how they are portrayed in movies and in video games
They are a good military who has shown quite the ability to adapt, and they are very good at making their enemy fight the way Russia wants to fight, but they absolutely do not have 100 bombers in reserve or 10k tanks or the logistical ability to get them to Central Europe immediately.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:43 pm to djsdawg
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If this current war is bad, then its bad we won that proxy battle.
How though?
Ukrainians rioted in the mid 2000s over supposedly rigged elections over the Russian backed candidate Yanukovych and then Euromaidan which again was due to the Russian backed Yanukovych. It seems like the Ukrainians want to be more aligned with the west (the European Union Ukraine Association Agreement), and Russia tries to stop that at all cost.
It is understandable that Russia feels that they own any former soviet nation, but these countries should be allowed to decide their own destiny. Again, no one is fighting to rejoin with Russia. Only against. They can clearly kick NATO/US out. But they dont.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:44 pm to Dantheman504
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This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:45 pm to Dantheman504
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1. A mineral and gas deal with Russia
Not worth that much in the grand scheme of things.
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2. A peace agreement with Russia/ Europe
Pissing off one or more parties means that it won't likely be a lasting peace.
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3. Additional money in trade agreements (that by itself is a large gain and makes your comment ignorant)
I don't think you know how trade agreements work.
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4. Respect and a show of united power/ peace
This isn't a video game man. This isn't how it would work. It would result in the destruction of an alliance that the US has spent money as well as blood to build. You'd give that away for some minerals. Thank god you aren't in charge.
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Yeah world peace is a big loss for pieces of shite.
The world has never been peaceful and conflict is a massive part of human affairs. Get your head out of this utopian thinking and start thinking realistically.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:46 pm to crazy4lsu
No they don't and there is many other reasons they do not have the capability to just roll through Europe.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:46 pm to Dantheman504
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The US would get: 1. A mineral and gas deal with Russia 2. A peace agreement with Russia/ Europe 3. Additional money in trade agreements (that by itself is a large gain and makes your comment ignorant) 4. Respect and a show of united power/ peace The only group of people that see USA gains as a "loss" are terrorists and brain dead Democrats (terrorists). Yeah world peace is a big loss for pieces of shite.
I think the Us should divest itself from the war in Ukraine as much as anyone but an economic partnership with Europe is worth a helluva lot more than an economic partnership with Russia. Frankly I’d prefer. To be trading partners with all of them.
Find a peace deal, end the war, trade with them all.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's crazy that we are still getting people suggesting that the Russians aren't putting their full weight into Ukraine.
It’s wild to read takes on these issues on the PT and Reddit, how diametrically opposed they are, and how insane both sides sound. I wish my social media had more nuanced and fact (not feeling/ideology) based discourse.
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