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re: Macron says The war will end with "Pacified Russia."

Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:42 pm to
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The idea that the French are a bunch of surrender monkeys is pure ignorance.


They lasted less than 2 months against Germany. Everyone on the planet knew Germany was going to be a problem since at least the Olympics in 1936. So with at least 4 years to prepare, the French government and people cared enough to keep themselves free for 6 weeks. The French are surrender monkeys, and saying so is only facing reality. If Russia declares war on France today, because of Macron's comments, France and Macron would drop Ukraine like a hot rock.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:47 pm to
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This isn’t true. French special forces are very good but the regular French military is not. They have one aircraft carrier and 6 subs. They only have 220 tanks.


So like the largest military in Europe?

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Russia would obliterate France in a war.


Russia couldn’t obliterate Ukraine in a war and that should’ve been like beating up your retarded kid brother.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:50 pm to
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So like the largest military in Europe?


if I may, that's a big part of the problem. Think about it a minute.

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Russia couldn’t obliterate Ukraine in a war and that should’ve been like beating up your retarded kid brother.


This is just ignorance. Russia could carpet bomb the entire country today, if it wished to do so. Then roll about 10,000 tanks across.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55367 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:52 pm to
We don’t have to make that choice. If some NATO countries attack another country we are not bound to participate. It’s a mutual defense treaty not a mutual OFFENSE treaty.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:53 pm to
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This is just ignorance. Russia could carpet bomb the entire country today, if it wished to do so. Then roll about 10,000 tanks across.



They definitely could not. They could grind down the French in an attritional campaign, but they would have trouble amassing that sort of force at the moment. I don't think they even have 10k tanks in storage at the moment.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27137 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:56 pm to
Easy to do that hiding behind the United States.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:58 pm to
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They definitely could not. They could grind down the French in an attritional campaign, but they would have trouble amassing that sort of force at the moment. I don't think they even have 10k tanks in storage at the moment.


Poster said Russia couldn’t take Ukraine, when Russia has shown amazing restraint. 100 bombers over Kiev would end it in a week.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41758 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Europe is desperate to have Russia be the big bad wolf at the door. They need them to be in order to keep people distracted for from the actual real issues going on in Europe.


Yeah man, it’s such a conspiracy that virtually every nation that borders Russia absolutely despises them and their games. It was only 6 years after the Russians invaded Georgia that they invaded Ukraine in 2014. Russias only allies are countries largely despised by everyone. Russia has fricked around in our hemisphere by not allowing Cuba to become a free nation and supporting Venezuelas continual demise. Everything they touch turns to shite.

Everyone knows Europe fricked up by taking in too many migrants. There is no grand conspiracy to hide the obvious. If Russia would stop bullying their neighbors (Baltic/Scandinavian states more recently), no one would have a problem with them.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27137 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:59 pm to
I don't believe Russia is trying to obliterate a land they want.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:00 pm to
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So like the largest military in Europe?


Fifth, after Russia, Ukraine, Turkey*, and Italy
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Russians invaded Georgia


The Georgians started the 08 war
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Poster said Russia couldn’t take Ukraine, when Russia has shown amazing restraint. 100 bombers over Kiev would end it in a week.



I'm skeptical they have those reserves at the moment. There is no benefit for them to be fighting the way they are if they do have those reserves. Given how they originally attacked Ukraine, I'm skeptical that they ever have had those reserves of bombers that were mission-ready. Your suggestion beggars belief to what is actually occurring on the ground.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68247 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:03 pm to
That's fine, but Nuland running a coup, us putting 12 spy bases on the border, and having guys like Biden, McCain, and Graham constantly visiting and meddling is ridic, too. We turned that country into a vassal state and would never have tolerated Russia or China doing that in Mexico.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2243 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:03 pm to
Yea does Russia do F'ed up things to countries in their sphere of influence, absolutely. Doesn't change the fact that they aren't the massive threat to Europe that Europe wants and needs them to be.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:05 pm to
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*UK Telegraph says "A strong German Army" will save NATO.





Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:05 pm to
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they did everything they could to not participate in WW1

Holy frick, what an idiotic and totally ignorant statement.

France suffered approximately 4.7 million total casualties during World War I, with around 1.5 million killed and about 3.2 million wounded. This represented about 18% of the mobilized forces and 4% of the French population at the time.

France did not surrender in World War I, they did lose more men at arms in that war than the US has lost in all the wars its ever fought - combined.

Americans have no fricking clue what war looks like.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41758 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:06 pm to
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The Georgians started the 08 war


Russia did the same exact thing in Ukraine. Funding separatists for years and come in to play peace keeper when said country tries to crack down on separatists.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
6478 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:06 pm to
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So we tell Europe and Russia who buys oil from who.


No? How did you get that from my post?

Europe is antogonzing Russia and the US while simultaneously using oil from both.

Russia and the US would jointly hault the production until peace agreements are made and end up getting more money out of it.

It would be the US and Russia demanding Europe to agree to peace.

We would not be telling them "who buys to who".

Unless they straight up refuse a peace agreement with the US and Russia after Russia already agrees to a ceasefire.

If Europe legit refuses a peace agreement that includes the US and Russia while understanding the consequences it would quite simply be the end of them.

What's their other option? Start WWIII against Russia, USA, and Japan while other European countries hop on our side? Good fricking luck.

After the peace agreement is signed the oil transportation would continue just as it currently is at an increased profit for US and Russia. That would be part of the peace deal and their consequence for antoganizing both.

And yes we would be assholes, just like most adults are viewed by children when they are corrected or punsihed.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:07 pm to
Get the white flags ready... frick the French
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:08 pm to
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What's their other option? Start WWIII against Russia, USA, and Japan while other European countries hop on our side? Good fricking luck.



This would never happen, my god.
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