re: Lower and Middle Class America has declined over the past 50 years

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How is frying fries in vegetable oil more skilled than manufacturing computer chips?

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Isn't how workers are valued. A person that builds buggy whips is very skilled. A person that can build wooden wagon wheels-- supremely skilled. But if we went back to using wooden wheels for vehicles, we would not have a good economy. Even though the workers would "more skilled". The value is what you create.

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Overpaid according to whom?

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You can choose two pairs of shoes. Exaclty the same. One costs $200. The other costs $5. Which one is overpriced?

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Currently a job at McDonalds is higher-paced, more skilled, and more economically productive than these jobs you want back (without governmetn intervention and redistribution of wealth).

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Nope. Just because you make up stuff doesn’t mean it’s true.

If an entire chip manufacturing plant came back a McDonald’s worker would not be more skilled than most people working there.

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Currently a job at McDonalds is higher-paced, more skilled, and more economically productive than these jobs you want back (without governmetn intervention and redistribution of wealth). Why do they deserve double/triple the salary of a McDonalds worker (+ benefits and retirement, if we're going fully halcyon)?

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Not sure how you quantify higher-paced or what TF it matters to this discussion, but they're certainly not more skilled and the economically productive bit is hysterical.

The most profitable part of fast food, by far, are the beverages. Going off your metric pouring liquid in a God damn cup is extremely skilled and economically productive. How could we ever do without the experts that pour liquid into cups!?!?

1995 - WTO

2000 - MFT, China

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Higher earners would pay less taxes only if their salaries dropped.

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Exactly. This policy is aimed at hurting their sectors and causing job loss and salary decreases (to fund the unproductive and inefficient lower-level manufacturing jobs).

That's the trade off in the policy.

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How does bringing manufacturing back necessarily cause other industries to be paid less?

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Increasing the cost of goods means less money circulating in those areas of the economy. Hence, the redistribution behind this policy.

The lower prices we pay for goods in our more natural economy means we have more money to spend on other things. The higher prices caused by this tariff-redistribution policy takes spending from these sectors of the economy, which will hurt those working in these productive sectors.

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A smaller piece of a bigger pie might be more pie than a bigger piece of a smaller pie.

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It's the same pie, at first. You're using government to determine where money spending is distributed.

The pie will likely become smaller with the tariff-redistribution policy, also, as the specific focus is to redistribute money to less economically productive and efficient sectors.

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Hardly. If you make more you receive less benefits.

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You're assuming the welfare class will take these jobs when jobs are available for them currently that they refuse.

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Some government regs are necessary.

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Thanks Rex.

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Currently a job at McDonalds is higher-paced, more skilled, and more economically productive than these jobs you want back (without governmetn intervention and redistribution of wealth). Why do they deserve double/triple the salary of a McDonalds worker (+ benefits and retirement, if we're going fully halcyon)?

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Wow. That’s pure communism mentality.
How about let’s simply level the playing field and see how it works out. That would be the most fair for everybody and give everyone a chance to succeed without the government choosing winners and losers.

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I didn't "make up stuff" McDonalds jobs exist, for economic reasons.

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Working at McDonald’s is easier and lower level than any manufacturing job foreign or domestic.

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and are made by slaves

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Here we go, Another pivot to emotional arguments due to losing the argument

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Prices can and will go up. The question is are these price increases off set by other boons.

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same thing they say about minimum wage increases

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Bringing these jobs back increases tax revenues, keeps those dollars circulating in our own economy and lowers reliance on social welfare programs.

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Why couldn't we just pay half the country to dig holes, the other half to fill them up, tax both of them at 50% and they'll pay for each other!