re: Lower and Middle Class America has declined over the past 50 years

"They both said the word pie, they must be arguing for the same thing!"

Tell me you're a simpleton without telling me you're a simpleton...

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Your claim is that I said every single manufacturing job is gone? Like zero left in the US?

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No. I specifically said this on page 1:

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You do realize that we're still a manufacturing power, right? We're #2 in output and one of the top10 in per capita output. No other country comes close to our mesh of the volume and value re: manufacturing.

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Because that’s what you’re suggesting.

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I am not, and specifically have stated otherwise.

I use the term "lower level manufacturing" and you fought the label. So I used your own OP to use your words to label the jobs we're talking about. Now you're creating a strawman.

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Your argument tactics are low IQ and the hallmark of lower level law grads. I

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Says the person who is using a straw man to make this comment.

Now let's address the rest of the post you ignored by trying to build a straw man

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The "jobs and manufacturing" you're referencing in OP do not exist in the US, per your OP. This is because they are economically unproductive.

A McDonalds worker is more economically productive than these jobs you reference in OP.


My question is why you think we should engage in leftist redistribution to "bring these jobs back" and why they deserve to be paid more than more economically productive McDonalds workers.

Hopefully you stop fighting with the facts of your own OP and answer the question.

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Then why do they exist and lower-level manufacturing jobs do not?

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Because shipping liquids is extremely expensive.

If you could teleport cup fulls of coke and sprite from India or China to America for consumption it would be one of the worst "economically produtive" activities one could perform.

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The "jobs and manufacturing" you're referencing in OP do not exist in the US, per your OP. This is because they are economically unproductive.

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The myth seems to be that they think those jobs left because of some affinity for offshoring jobs. There's no affinity I know of, it's just a matter of economics.

But this "they hate america" mythos is what happens when we substiute projected personality traits on people we don't even know instead of analyzing economics. Idiocracy is upon us.

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Nope. McDonald’s workers are not producing anything.

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Holy smokes. Insurmountable ignorance.

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Because shipping liquids is extremely expensive.

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That would make domestic lower-level manufacturing more economically viable, no? Due to shipping costs from replacing these jobs abroad?

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If you could teleport cup fulls of coke and sprite from India or China to America for consumption it would be one of the worst "economically produtive" activities one could perform.

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Well we can't, so you're arguing with how markets work with reality instead of answering the question.

You are fighting facts and reality to avoid answering the question because in your perception these lower-level manufacturing jobs are somehow more noble than working in McDonalds. It's the same mentality that explains why the population who refused to adapt and made other bad economic choices suffers.

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Holy smokes. Insurmountable ignorance.

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Yeah I would agree you have a lot of that.

I see the WTO/Globalists are awake this morning.

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No, it's not.

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"More isn't more."

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No what I posted is fact. Jobs exist for the welfare class today. They refuse them and prefer welfare.

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So no one receiving welfare is currently working?

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Most have the opportunity for this but don't want to put in the work to have them.

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I can only assume you're speaking of the ones currently not working. Not working -> working necessitates a higher paying job (as opposed to not having a job at all).

There are plenty of people recieving welfare who would upgrade to a better paying job. That better paying job would necessarily decrease (eliminate?) the welfare they recieve.

You can argue it, along with the other boons, won't out weigh the cons of domestic manufacturing, but you can't pretend there are no boons (which you did).

What was it that Sowell said? There are no solutions, just trade off? You seem to think that overseas manufacturing is purely a solution with no trade offs.

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MAGA are now the WTO lefty protestors.

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saw that yesterday.