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re: Louisville Residents to pay Breonna Taylor’s Family $12M

Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:28 pm to
She suffered the consequences of running with black market dealers.


At the same time, the city is dealing with the consequences of no knock raids.
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:31 pm to
Yeah it's pretty obvious she is not the sweet innocent person the media wants to make her out as. She was definitely involved in some shady shite. Which is why her family getting 12 mill is so outrageous
Posted by AUjim
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Yeah it's pretty obvious she is not the sweet innocent person the media wants to make her out as. She was definitely involved in some shady shite.


That doesn't mean she deserved to die.
Of all the bullshite going on, this case is one that could bring about reasonable reform. If the police weren't involved in implementing some bullshite procedure that should have never happened....the city wouldn't have settled for 12mil.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:42 pm to
I have a few relatives that are worth way less than 12 million.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:44 pm to
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She suffered the consequences of running with black market dealers.


At the same time, the city is dealing with the consequences of no knock raids.


This isn't a situation like in Atlanta where Kathryn Johnston was killed by APD in 2006 on a no-knock warrant.

The LPD knew exactly which apartment they were entering. Homeboy started shooting, so they returned fire.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:51 pm to
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That doesn't mean she deserved to die.

She has her boyfriend to blame for her death. Shooting at police officers executing a warrant isn't the best way to keep others in the home safe.
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If the police weren't involved in implementing some bullshite procedure that should have never happened

bullshite procedure? Is that what we're calling valid search warrants now?
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the city wouldn't have settled for 12mil.


They shouldn't have.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:57 pm to
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He conveniently left out the part where Breonna's boyfriend shot at the cops
Yes. Resident's tend to react that way to strangers invading their homes - something that is usually celebrated on these boards.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:04 pm to
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You skipped the part where the cops knocked, possibly announced, entered the home, and one cop was shot in the leg.


I wasn’t hiding it. I put it in the first sentence. But you are correct.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Thank you. So based on this, still likely a bad shoot where the police are still trying to hide some shite?


I think it’s more accurately an embarrassing shoot. NC Tigah posted a couple of pictures of officers involved in the warrant and two of them were equipped with body cameras despite the department’s statement that they weren’t.

I think that the fact that one of them is fired and the officer that applied for the warrant was transferred (?)/under review speaks to some sloppy warrant application stuff.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:07 pm to
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I'd love to know how they came to a figure of $12MM. Let's say she made $50k/year (she didn't).


It’s a nonsensical award.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:08 pm to
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1) The cops had previously arrested a drug runner who was using a rental car that was rented by Breonna. The drug runner was running drugs for her supposed ex-boyfriend at the time. 2) When the cops came to the apartment and knocked, there was enough time for Breonna and her new boyfriend to get out of bed and put clothes on before the cops entered and the shooting started. 3) Breonna’s new boyfriend shot at the cops first, which caused them to return fire. 4) The shot selection by the cops is what is most questionable from an investigators point of view, not whether the shooting was justified, per se. One of the cops was shooting haphazardly through a side window, it was alleged.


None of that was left out. Your number 2 is relatively meaningless.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:08 pm to
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The cops knocked.
Yes, they beat on the door in the middle of the night, without ever announcing that they were police. Yes, the cops CLAIM that they did announce themselves. Everyone else in the vicinity says they did not.
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They weren't asleep in their beds.
Boyfriend Walker says they were. The cops shot and killed the only other person with personal knowledge
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The boyfriend fired the first shot and hit a police officer.
Someone NOT in a police uniform (first-man-in was wearing street clothes) breaks down MY door and runs into MY home with a drawn weapon, I am shooting his arse, too.
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They weren't at the wrong house.
That depends upon how we define the term “wrong.” Yes, it was the house/residence listed on the warrant, but it was also a house/residence that had absolutely no relationship whatsoever to the crime being investigated. Law-enforcement had already investigated whether “suspicious mail” was being sent to that address, and the Postal Service had affirmatively-refuted that assertion.



The simple fact is that there was ZERO reason for the type of late-night, SWAT service of a warrant that we saw here. You watch the house, approach the resident when she is at home at a reasonable hour and you search the premises like a civilized human being.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by AUjim
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:08 pm to
Side A:
Breonna Taylor, an EMT who loved serving her community, was sleeping one night when the police (conditioned by years of systematic racism) barged in to her apartment in the middle of the night unannounced and opened fire, killing an innocent person instantly.

Side B:
Breonna Taylor was a criminal. She associated with criminals and put herself in a bad situation. The police executed a legal no-knock warrant and announced themselves upon entry to her apartment. When met with gunfire, they reciprocated, unintentionally killing her.

The Probable Truth:
Breonna Taylor and the people she associated with were not saints. The police had a lead on a good bust and upon breaking down her door in the middle of the night, shite hit the fan. Not having any idea who was busting in to the apartment, the boyfriend opened fire. Taylor is killed in the crossfire.

A girl is killed basically so nobody would have time to flush drugs down the toilet. Our priorities are f'ed up.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:09 pm to
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If witnesses could hear knocks, they can hear announcements, which has been proven that they did hear knocks and verbal commands.


It has not been proven.

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So she was holding illegal money from a drug dealer. Means warrant was valid on concerns of involvement.


So the Louisville police recovered the money?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33429 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Side A:
Breonna Taylor, an EMT who loved serving her community, was sleeping one night when the police (conditioned by years of systematic racism) barged in to her apartment in the middle of the night unannounced and opened fire, killing an innocent person instantly.

Side B:
Breonna Taylor was a criminal. She associated with criminals and put herself in a bad situation. The police executed a legal no-knock warrant and announced themselves upon entry to her apartment. When met with gunfire, they reciprocated, unintentionally killing her.

The Probable Truth:
Breonna Taylor and the people she associated with were not saints. The police had a lead on a good bust and upon breaking down her door in the middle of the night, shite hit the fan. Not having any idea who was busting in to the apartment, the boyfriend opened fire. Taylor is killed in the crossfire.
Nice.

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A girl is killed basically so nobody would have time to flush drugs down the toilet. Our priorities are f'ed up.
The war on drugs is just an abomination. End it and we solve 90% of this shite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:11 pm to
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Just goes to show how powerful the media is at forming public opinion. They repeat lies long enough it becomes the truth


There’s been plenty of police misinformation as well. Most of it has been repeated in this thread.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:11 pm to
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The Probable Truth: Breonna Taylor and the people she associated with were not saints. The police had a lead on a good bust and upon breaking down her door in the middle of the night, shite hit the fan. Not having any idea who was busting in to the apartment, the boyfriend opened fire. Taylor is killed in the crossfire.


This is probably pretty close to the reality.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:12 pm to
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it was also a house/residence that had absolutely no relationship whatsoever to the crime being investigated.


You hang with a known drug trafficker, you have a relationship with the criminal.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:13 pm to
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She has her boyfriend to blame for her death. Shooting at police officers executing a warrant isn't the best way to keep others in the home safe.


If they didn’t announce, your argument goes out the window.

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bullshite procedure? Is that what we're calling valid search warrants now?


Why did the guy who drew up the warrant get suspended?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:15 pm to
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You hang with a known drug trafficker, you have a relationship with the criminal.


This is pretty thin evidence. I have some work acquaintances that have been under surveillance for their connections to drug dealers. I’ve never smoked a joint. But I’ve ridden in a car with them and been on the phone with them dozens of times. Should my house be raided?
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