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re: Louisville Residents to pay Breonna Taylor’s Family $12M

Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7850 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:24 pm to
So we just let our streets become flooded and over ran with heroin addicts, crackheads and toothless meth heads? Solid plan.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:30 pm to
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None of that was left out. Your number 2 is relatively meaningless.


Why do you think so? Doesn’t it go to the question of the no knock warrant which is in question?

You can open wide the question of police arrest tactics in the current period of drug laws and drug violence, but in this particular incident, the police didn’t bust in the door unannounced as would be suggested by the use of the term “no knock warrant”. The fact that the couple had time to get out of bed and get dressed is evidence to that fact.

I’m not suggesting that we know what Breonna’s boyfriend was thinking when he shot at the cops. Perhaps he thought they were intruders. Still, his actions were considerably more irresponsible considering the fact that he had a bit more time to consider the situation and didn’t just shoot in the dark from under the covers.

He bears some large amount of responsibility for Breonna’s death, even though his bullet wasn’t the one that killed her.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38855 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:31 pm to
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I predict the following amongst Breonna Taylor’s family:
- way more tattoos
- bedazzled phone-cases
- Jamaica and or The Bahamas
- did I mention tattoos?




No need to dump on Taylor's family. It's not like they're the Alton Sterling clan.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:46 pm to
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A girl is killed basically so nobody would have time to flush drugs down the toilet. Our priorities are f'ed up.



No a girl was killed because her drug dealing boyfriend shot at cops. Our priorities are to get drug dealers off the street because drugs frick up peoples lives. This is why its important to get to the drugs before they are flushed down the toilet.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:06 pm to
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the808bass
you are being downright reasonable in this thread.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to
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But the blame should be on the side piece she was shacking up with for shooting first. SHOOTING. FIRST.
Men NOT wearing police uniforms and NOT announcing themselves as cops busted down the door and stormed into the residence with guns drawn.

Damned RIGHT he shot first. You would, too.

And if those men had been criminals with ill intent, you would be trying to award him the Medal of Freedom right now.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33343 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to
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But the blame should be on the side piece she was shacking up with for shooting first. SHOOTING. FIRST.
Yes - he shot first at invaders in his home.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:14 pm to
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No a girl was killed because her drug dealing boyfriend shot at cops.
Good Lord.

The FORMER boyfriend was the alleged drug dealer. This guy had NO criminal history, at ALL. Both had the same surname, so it IS a bit confusing if you are not paying attention.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33343 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:19 pm to
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The FORMER boyfriend was the alleged drug dealer. This guy had NO criminal history, at ALL. Both had the same surname, so it IS a bit confusing if you are not pating attention.
They aren't. They're bitching about the media lying to and tricking people all while spouting inaccurate talking points.

The boyfriend in the home at the time was clean and awoke to men breaking into his home in the middle of the night. In almost literally any other similar example, we'd have multiple OT and PT threads waxing poetic about a baw using his legal piece to defend his castle. However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:21 pm to
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However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.
It is indeed baffling. Let us know what you find.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33343 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:23 pm to
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It is indeed baffling. Let us know what you find.
I think it might be because they don't think UK deserves to be in the SEC and just lingering bias from that. It's in Louisville, though, so they should probably realize that's U of L territory more than anything.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:55 pm to
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The boyfriend in the home at the time was clean and awoke to men breaking into his home in the middle of the night. In almost literally any other similar example, we'd have multiple OT and PT threads waxing poetic about a baw using his legal piece to defend his castle. However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.


I’ve said multiple times. These knock down the door warrants are terrible policy because it places two persons in a position where they are acting with the best knowledge they have and within their rights or responsibilities on a collision course towards violence.

I don’t blame the guy at all for shooting the cops, and I don’t blame the cops at all for shooting up the house (based on what I know now) They were placed in a terrible position by terrible legislators and in this case possibly a terrible judge ( unless we find out the cops lied)

What this has nothing to do with is race. And liars making it otherwise piss me off.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:14 pm to
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So we just let our streets become flooded and over ran with heroin addicts, crackheads and toothless meth heads? Solid plan.


Louisville police was ok with that. They offered a plea deal to the drug dealer if he would implicate Breonna. I guess they don’t care if their streets are overrun with addicts.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:17 pm to
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Doesn’t it go to the question of the no knock warrant which is in question?


There’s a big difference between knock and announce, knock and no-knock. The boyfriend called 911. Would he call 911 if he thought it was the police?

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Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33343 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:27 pm to
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What this has nothing to do with is race. And liars making it otherwise piss me off.
Eh. The prosecution of the drug war isn't exactly race-neutral.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39103 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:33 pm to
They killed her; they SHOULD pay a big settlement. She was sitting in her bed, and they busted in on her.

I’m not overly critical of the police on this one, but if you do a bunch of forced entries like that, eventually one is going to go south and innocents will be killed. When that happens we should do our best to make it right.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:52 pm to
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Eh. The prosecution of the drug war isn't exactly race-neutral.



Whether the outcomes are disparate the policies are race neutral.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:53 pm to
I’ll be honest, I didn’t know about the 911 call. This is the first time I heard it.

Having said that, the call is both heart breaking and unusual.

On one hand, you’d think if he knew he had just been and was still involved in a shoot out with police, he would have said something other than “I don’t know what’s happening, someone kicked in my door and shot my girlfriend.”

On the other hand, if he was just attacked by unknown attackers, and was still involved in the confrontation, you’d think he would have said something more than what he said.

He doesn’t explain on the phone call, one way or the other, what caused him to get out of bed and put clothes on, and how much time elapsed. It’s fair to assume that he heard someone knocking and had time to respond in some fashion.

The police said they announced themselves. Maybe they’re lying. Maybe the boyfriend didn’t hear them. Maybe he didn’t believe them. Maybe he panicked. Maybe immediately began with a vague cover story when talking to the 911 operator (someone kicked in my door - true enough, someone surely did.)
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:00 pm to
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The police said they announced themselves. Maybe they’re lying.
Investigators have interviewed all of the neighbors. Most heard the police beating on the door. Not ONE neighbor heard the cops identify themselves as law enforcement. Yes, the cops are lying to cover a bad shoot.

People lie and fabricate evidence every day.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3684 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:04 pm to
It would be interesting to see a follow-up documentary on these winners of massive lawsuits a year or two later after the fact.
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