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re: Louisville Residents to pay Breonna Taylor’s Family $12M
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
So we just let our streets become flooded and over ran with heroin addicts, crackheads and toothless meth heads? Solid plan.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:30 pm to the808bass
quote:
None of that was left out. Your number 2 is relatively meaningless.
Why do you think so? Doesn’t it go to the question of the no knock warrant which is in question?
You can open wide the question of police arrest tactics in the current period of drug laws and drug violence, but in this particular incident, the police didn’t bust in the door unannounced as would be suggested by the use of the term “no knock warrant”. The fact that the couple had time to get out of bed and get dressed is evidence to that fact.
I’m not suggesting that we know what Breonna’s boyfriend was thinking when he shot at the cops. Perhaps he thought they were intruders. Still, his actions were considerably more irresponsible considering the fact that he had a bit more time to consider the situation and didn’t just shoot in the dark from under the covers.
He bears some large amount of responsibility for Breonna’s death, even though his bullet wasn’t the one that killed her.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:31 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
I predict the following amongst Breonna Taylor’s family:
- way more tattoos
- bedazzled phone-cases
- Jamaica and or The Bahamas
- did I mention tattoos?
No need to dump on Taylor's family. It's not like they're the Alton Sterling clan.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:46 pm to AUjim
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A girl is killed basically so nobody would have time to flush drugs down the toilet. Our priorities are f'ed up.
No a girl was killed because her drug dealing boyfriend shot at cops. Our priorities are to get drug dealers off the street because drugs frick up peoples lives. This is why its important to get to the drugs before they are flushed down the toilet.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:06 pm to the808bass
quote:you are being downright reasonable in this thread.
the808bass
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to vodkacop
quote:Men NOT wearing police uniforms and NOT announcing themselves as cops busted down the door and stormed into the residence with guns drawn.
But the blame should be on the side piece she was shacking up with for shooting first. SHOOTING. FIRST.
Damned RIGHT he shot first. You would, too.
And if those men had been criminals with ill intent, you would be trying to award him the Medal of Freedom right now.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to vodkacop
quote:Yes - he shot first at invaders in his home.
But the blame should be on the side piece she was shacking up with for shooting first. SHOOTING. FIRST.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:14 pm to BayouCatFan
quote:Good Lord.
No a girl was killed because her drug dealing boyfriend shot at cops.
The FORMER boyfriend was the alleged drug dealer. This guy had NO criminal history, at ALL. Both had the same surname, so it IS a bit confusing if you are not paying attention.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:19 pm to AggieHank86
quote:They aren't. They're bitching about the media lying to and tricking people all while spouting inaccurate talking points.
The FORMER boyfriend was the alleged drug dealer. This guy had NO criminal history, at ALL. Both had the same surname, so it IS a bit confusing if you are not pating attention.
The boyfriend in the home at the time was clean and awoke to men breaking into his home in the middle of the night. In almost literally any other similar example, we'd have multiple OT and PT threads waxing poetic about a baw using his legal piece to defend his castle. However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:It is indeed baffling. Let us know what you find.
However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I think it might be because they don't think UK deserves to be in the SEC and just lingering bias from that. It's in Louisville, though, so they should probably realize that's U of L territory more than anything.
It is indeed baffling. Let us know what you find.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
The boyfriend in the home at the time was clean and awoke to men breaking into his home in the middle of the night. In almost literally any other similar example, we'd have multiple OT and PT threads waxing poetic about a baw using his legal piece to defend his castle. However, there seems to be a difference this time preventing that same reaction. I'll keep digging to try to find out what that difference is. Stay tuned.
I’ve said multiple times. These knock down the door warrants are terrible policy because it places two persons in a position where they are acting with the best knowledge they have and within their rights or responsibilities on a collision course towards violence.
I don’t blame the guy at all for shooting the cops, and I don’t blame the cops at all for shooting up the house (based on what I know now) They were placed in a terrible position by terrible legislators and in this case possibly a terrible judge ( unless we find out the cops lied)
What this has nothing to do with is race. And liars making it otherwise piss me off.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:14 pm to vodkacop
quote:
So we just let our streets become flooded and over ran with heroin addicts, crackheads and toothless meth heads? Solid plan.
Louisville police was ok with that. They offered a plea deal to the drug dealer if he would implicate Breonna. I guess they don’t care if their streets are overrun with addicts.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:27 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:Eh. The prosecution of the drug war isn't exactly race-neutral.
What this has nothing to do with is race. And liars making it otherwise piss me off.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:33 pm to the808bass
They killed her; they SHOULD pay a big settlement. She was sitting in her bed, and they busted in on her.
I’m not overly critical of the police on this one, but if you do a bunch of forced entries like that, eventually one is going to go south and innocents will be killed. When that happens we should do our best to make it right.
I’m not overly critical of the police on this one, but if you do a bunch of forced entries like that, eventually one is going to go south and innocents will be killed. When that happens we should do our best to make it right.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Eh. The prosecution of the drug war isn't exactly race-neutral.
Whether the outcomes are disparate the policies are race neutral.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:53 pm to the808bass
I’ll be honest, I didn’t know about the 911 call. This is the first time I heard it.
Having said that, the call is both heart breaking and unusual.
On one hand, you’d think if he knew he had just been and was still involved in a shoot out with police, he would have said something other than “I don’t know what’s happening, someone kicked in my door and shot my girlfriend.”
On the other hand, if he was just attacked by unknown attackers, and was still involved in the confrontation, you’d think he would have said something more than what he said.
He doesn’t explain on the phone call, one way or the other, what caused him to get out of bed and put clothes on, and how much time elapsed. It’s fair to assume that he heard someone knocking and had time to respond in some fashion.
The police said they announced themselves. Maybe they’re lying. Maybe the boyfriend didn’t hear them. Maybe he didn’t believe them. Maybe he panicked. Maybe immediately began with a vague cover story when talking to the 911 operator (someone kicked in my door - true enough, someone surely did.)
Having said that, the call is both heart breaking and unusual.
On one hand, you’d think if he knew he had just been and was still involved in a shoot out with police, he would have said something other than “I don’t know what’s happening, someone kicked in my door and shot my girlfriend.”
On the other hand, if he was just attacked by unknown attackers, and was still involved in the confrontation, you’d think he would have said something more than what he said.
He doesn’t explain on the phone call, one way or the other, what caused him to get out of bed and put clothes on, and how much time elapsed. It’s fair to assume that he heard someone knocking and had time to respond in some fashion.
The police said they announced themselves. Maybe they’re lying. Maybe the boyfriend didn’t hear them. Maybe he didn’t believe them. Maybe he panicked. Maybe immediately began with a vague cover story when talking to the 911 operator (someone kicked in my door - true enough, someone surely did.)
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:00 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Investigators have interviewed all of the neighbors. Most heard the police beating on the door. Not ONE neighbor heard the cops identify themselves as law enforcement. Yes, the cops are lying to cover a bad shoot.
The police said they announced themselves. Maybe they’re lying.
People lie and fabricate evidence every day.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:04 pm to the808bass
It would be interesting to see a follow-up documentary on these winners of massive lawsuits a year or two later after the fact.
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