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re: Louisville Residents to pay Breonna Taylor’s Family $12M
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:48 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:48 pm to AggieHank86
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Investigators have interviewed all of the neighbors
Meh
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:51 pm to AggieHank86
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Men NOT wearing police uniforms and NOT announcing themselves as cops busted down the door and stormed into the residence with guns drawn.
In accordance with law and policy
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Damned RIGHT he shot first. You would, too.
In accordance with rights and knowledge he had.
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And if those men had been criminals with ill intent, you would be trying to award him the Medal of Freedom right now.
Agreed, but instead we have a tragic case where bad policy and possibly an incompetent judge have resulted in a death and a maimed officer.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:52 pm to Penrod
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They killed her; they SHOULD pay a big settlement.
“They” didn’t pay anything. The citizens of Louisville will pay.
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:31 pm to the808bass
Complete waste of taxpayers’ money.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:08 am to the808bass
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Yeah. Me neither. But the police said she was receiving suspicious packages. What does that mean?
It means they saw known (and confirmed after the bust) drug dealers drive to this house pick up packages and bring them to the known drug distribution house .
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:45 am to Turbeauxdog
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drug dealers drive to this house pick up packages and bring them to the known drug distribution house .
So it wasn’t suspicious packages. It was suspicious bearers of packages.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:51 am to the808bass
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So it wasn’t suspicious packages. It was suspicious bearers of packages.
The bearers of packages and the locations traveled by the packages made the packages suspicious.
I mean are you expecting them to have “crack box” stamped on the side?
Are you implying that’s some leap of logic?
I mean I guess it’s possible amazon doesn’t deliver to crack houses, but I doubt they don’t. Bezos don’t give a frick.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 8:01 am
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:59 am to the808bass
Randy Weaver only got 7 million and lost 3 family members. Must be inflation.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:08 am to Turbeauxdog
Drug dealers use Amazon to buy regular stuff, too.
I doubt that many people have a trap house listed as their official address.
I doubt that many people have a trap house listed as their official address.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:12 am to the808bass
I must be missing what point you’re trying to make.
Woman dates known drug dealer.
Woman's has other known drug dealers coming to her house picking up packages and taking them to known drug house.
Police suspect packages to be drug related and include that in warrant.
Should they not have included that in warrant application?
I don’t have the point of reference to say that the totality of probable cause is sufficient for a judge to issue a warrant. You seem to think it is not, unless you think the cops were lying, seems the judge is to blame. Weird she’s the only one not taking heat.
Woman dates known drug dealer.
Woman's has other known drug dealers coming to her house picking up packages and taking them to known drug house.
Police suspect packages to be drug related and include that in warrant.
Should they not have included that in warrant application?
I don’t have the point of reference to say that the totality of probable cause is sufficient for a judge to issue a warrant. You seem to think it is not, unless you think the cops were lying, seems the judge is to blame. Weird she’s the only one not taking heat.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:31 am to Turbeauxdog
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Police suspect packages to be drug related and include that in warrant.
I’m saying that the entire warrant is founded on the packages and the car. If the packages aren’t really suspicious, then all they have is her car driving up to a former boyfriend’s place of residence (which is also a trap house). Is that strong evidence for a warrant? Especially a middle of the night raid?
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:02 am to the808bass
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I’m saying that the entire warrant is founded on the packages and the car. If the packages aren’t really suspicious,
I guess if the postal service told the cops, those specific packages were from amazon to breonnas house, I would agree.
I would assume you would need a warrant to find that out, so not sure how the judge reviewing this warrant wouldn’t know. Maybe there’s a silo issue.
So if the cops knew they weren’t suspicious because of a previous warrant and lied to the judge about it, and woman ended up dead, they should fry.
If the cops didn’t lie about it, and the judge issued a warrant with insufficient probable cause, and a woman ended up dead, she should be recalled/impeached/disbarred.
If this level of probable cause is sufficient and the cops didn’t lie and a women ended up dead, we should address the terrible policy we have. (We should do that anyway)
Posted on 9/16/20 at 11:17 am to the808bass
"Except that the lawyer mentions it in every sentence. Why? They know that EMTs have a much higher public perception than arse-wipers. I’m being overly pejorative about it. But it’s the truth."
I see what you are saying but suggest, respectfully, that you consider whether you are focused on a matter of trivial importance given that a woman who posed no threat was shot dead.
I see what you are saying but suggest, respectfully, that you consider whether you are focused on a matter of trivial importance given that a woman who posed no threat was shot dead.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 11:50 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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that you consider whether you are focused on a matter of trivial importance
He’s pointing out a repetitive focus on a matter of trivial importance by our deceptive media, not focusing on it himself.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:03 pm to Turbeauxdog
"He’s pointing out a repetitive focus on a matter of trivial importance by our deceptive media, not focusing on it himself."
Perhaps. But my thinking would be "why compound the triviality by commenting on it?" Of course, not a big deal. The big deal is that Taylor was shot to death in what appears to have been a botched and likely unnecessary raid.
Perhaps. But my thinking would be "why compound the triviality by commenting on it?" Of course, not a big deal. The big deal is that Taylor was shot to death in what appears to have been a botched and likely unnecessary raid.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
I agree with all of that.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:24 pm to the808bass
quote:Exactly.
all they have is her car driving up to a former boyfriend’s place of residence (which is also a trap house). Is that strong evidence for a warrant? Especially a middle of the night raid?
Does it merit investigation and perhaps even execution of a run-of-the-mill warrant in due course? Probably not, but "maybe."
Does it justify knocking-down doors in the middle of the night? Not so much.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:45 pm to TrueTiger
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no knock raids
I'm against these, but they knew she was a soft target, so they knocked to give her time to answer.
If they just bust in and didn't knock, she's probably still alive.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:54 pm to the808bass
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But I’ve ridden in a car with them and been on the phone with them dozens of times. Should my house be raided?
Are they staying with you frequently enough to use your house for business?
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:17 pm to Hoops
Business? No. But my Sprint bill had my last address in it for 5 years after I moved.
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