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re: Louisville: ONE officer charged with 1st Degree Wanton Endangerment, NOT for Breonna
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:10 pm to The Boat
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:10 pm to The Boat
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I love wonton chicken
Me and the wife were rolling on the floor listening to Harris Faulkner and her won-ton annunciation. She just keep on repeating it that way.
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to Big4SALTbro
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The cops were terrible shots in this whole thing. So was the bf.
Actually shooting somebody must be a real emotional strain.
Thugs can't do it, cops can't do it, etc., at least not well. I have never done it, don't know if I could either.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to graychef
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I guess the DA and city administration are not linked. Strange that it would be settled for such a big amount with not much done criminally.
this is the state's AG, correct?
so not a municipal authority figure
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to RazorBroncs
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I haven't heard or read anything about it (as a federal officer myself) that didn't fit protocol for the most part, OTHER than the officer firing through the window without having eyes on the suspect. But even then he was returning fire thinking he was giving his partners cover, so I'm not sure if you could even claim it as 100% negligent - just dumb.
The shitshow is due to the BF's first resort being to open fire and not assess the situation in any way. That led to the officer returning fire to provide cover for his partners entering the apartment.
What he did would be the correct course of action in an active shooter situation or in the military trying to enter a building while taking fire, but not in this situation.
oh i agree completely. sounds like the hankinson(sp?) was scared shitless and had an itchy trigger finger
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to RazorBroncs
Nah just means they actually have to be accurate. I said from the start they should all be fired based on going Ofer on hitting the target.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to Norbert
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Cops decided to break her door down at midnight without announcing themselves.
Per the Attorney General of KY, a witness in another apartment heard the police knocking on the door and announcing themselves. When no one answered the door they then breached the door.
ETA: to correct from District Attorney to Attorney General
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:12 pm to rt3
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:12 pm to Norbert
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Possibly assisted in the sale of drugs.
However, no drugs were found in the apartment.
Cops decided to break her door down at midnight without announcing themselves.
There is certainly police negligence and incompetence involved. It just isn't murder or manslaughter.
Cops saw one of the co-conspirators leave the house with a package and go to a trap house. Saw Taylor at the trap house multiple times. Taylor bailed out other co-conspirators and a jail calls have the other suspects saying she was the money women but they moved the money shortly before the raid.
The cops say they knocked and announced, sleeping neighbors and boyfriend said they didn't. I've never seen a cop go into a house any not loudly announce "police" or sheriff's office" and they have zero incentive to not announce. Also, it can be hard to hear or remember hearing "police" being yelled when gunfire is going off as soon as they are crossing the threshold and announcing...wouldn't you think?
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:14 pm to Big4SALTbro
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The cops were terrible shots in this whole thing. So was the bf.
You've obviously never shot at a moving target in the dark while being shot at. fricking keyboard Seal
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:17 pm to The Melt
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#NEW KY Attorney General Daniel Cameron says the warrant served on the night of Breonna Taylor's death was NOT a no-knock warrant, officers chose to breach the apartment after no one answered the door.
Says Taylor's boyfriend Kenneth Walker fired upon officers as they entered.
Wait so the Mod Lied... AGAIN... No never .. BLM never lies!
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:17 pm to graychef
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Yes.
But it seems like they could’ve waited a week.
gotta try to show we're on their side to do whatever possible to keep the city from burning I guess
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:18 pm to GEAUXmedic
I'm generally pro-blue and tend to wait for facts to come out, but I hope the Breonna Taylor situation at least reopens the discussion about "no-knock" warrants. (ETA: Even if this was not a "no knock", then the warrant service procedures should be revisited. The BF opening fire on the cops is what led to Ms. Taylor's death, I've always believed that.)
I can't reconcile the bill of rights with these warrants, at least without a major revision of how they are served across the board.
I'm not singling out any agency or officer - I'm against them, generally, and would require an extremely heightened standard if I were a judge approving them.
I can't reconcile the bill of rights with these warrants, at least without a major revision of how they are served across the board.
I'm not singling out any agency or officer - I'm against them, generally, and would require an extremely heightened standard if I were a judge approving them.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:18 pm to The Melt
Supposedly the bf shot first and hit one of the officers in the thigh then all hell broke loose. This is according to Harris Faulkner on FOX News awhile ago.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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I'm generally pro-blue and tend to wait for facts to come out, but I hope the Breonna Taylor situation at least reopens the discussion about "no-knock" warrants.
The AG did say he is creating a task force to review the issuing and execution of warrants
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:20 pm to imjustafatkid
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I'm not sure how they could possibly prove this if they found it was reasonable for them to be firing into Breonna Taylor's apartment.
Being indicted by a grand jury has nothing to do with proving anything. A Grand jury is just a group of regular arse people.
The DA still has to decide to prosecute. Don't think he will. AFAIK pos Kenneth Williams shot at the police through a closed door before he knew who or what was out there.
Charges are total bullshite but I don't think they should let this particular dude go on raids anymore. Takes a special kind of person do that shite in a community.
He only killed a criminal this time but he could've shot an actual innocent person.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:20 pm to teke184
They been planning this shite for months. Shite was gonna burn no matter what.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:21 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I believe the premise of the no-knock warrant is to prevent suspects from fleeing, destroying evidence, or being better prepared for dangerous conflict with law enforcement. With that premise, I understand the rationale for it and I recognize the risks involved in it, for both the suspects as well as the officers.
I'm generally pro-blue and tend to wait for facts to come out, but I hope the Breonna Taylor situation at least reopens the discussion about "no-knock" warrants.
I can't reconcile the bill of rights with these warrants, at least without a major revision of how they are served across the board.
I'm not singling out any agency or officer - I'm against them, generally, and would require an extremely heightened standard if I were a judge approving them.
I think what is desperately needed for the use of no-knock warrants is better and more thorough investigation to confirm the proper residence, suspects, and others who might be involved.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:21 pm to Homesick Tiger
That has been reported and put in court documents. The bf never claims that he did not fire a round either. I do not believe him when he says they did not hear it was the police. The no knock warrant wasn't served as a no knock and we all know police, when they knock, they are very obnoxious and tell you who the hell they are.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:23 pm to Miznoz
clarification:
the warrant was approved as a no-knock....however it was not executed as a no-knock...the LEs knocked and proceeded to breach the door only after there was no answer.
the warrant was approved as a no-knock....however it was not executed as a no-knock...the LEs knocked and proceeded to breach the door only after there was no answer.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:23 pm to Icceytiger
It's been known for a while that the warrant was changed to a 'knock and announce' beforehand, those that don't understand this or think this is some revelation haven't been paying attention to the facts.
As a previous poster said, the officers have nothing to gain in this situation by NOT announcing themselves. Especially after they've already surrounded the place and are ready to breach the door, trust me when I say we WANT it to be known that we're officers entering the premises at all cost.
Never have I thought "you know what would work better when we bust into this criminal's domicile? TOTALLY SURPRISING THEM AS WE COME INSIDE!" No, I want to yell "US MARSHALS!!" at the top of my lungs so the people sleeping down the street even know who I am.
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