re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools

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Are you claiming those things didn't happen? Or that those were the only isolated instances of individuals being stripped of their individuality and treated only as members of a class or group?

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No. But "they did it during Jim Crow" isn't exactly a ringing defense of why we're doing it now, is it?

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I saw you complain about white people, but I haven't seen anyone else do that in this thread. And maybe you weren't complaining about white people, but were trying to make some sort of joke that I didn't get. Either way, I haven't read every post carefully, but I haven't noticed anyone vilifying white people - especially not "progressives." This is a major misconception that has been internalized by some posters here and I'm not sure why.

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I can't tell if you're being purposefully obtuse and ignoring that "whiteness" has arisen as a concept in tandem with DEI and other CRT progeny, or if you're about to feed me some line about whiteness and white people being distinct in some meaningful way. Either way, it's utter stupidity.

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Has this language been used in this thread?

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"Critical race theory" is in the title. The oppressor/oppressed dichotomy is central to CRT.

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It's not. That's what I've been saying this whole time. CRT is examining social structures and the role race played in many systems like housing, voting, education, etc. It's academic scholarship, not a discussion board post that can be summed up by "It's whitey's fault."

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You guys quite simply don't know anything about the worldview you evangelize for, so you mischaracterize ("it's whitey's fault") when you're arguing with people who do.

CRT is about viewing everything (and I do mean everything) through the prism of racial group identity and power. Inherent in that is the premise that black people are not, ever, in the dominant group (unless they reject their own identity, become white adjacent, etc.), and hence, in the oppressed group. They're not capable of being in the power group, and hence, not capable of being oppressors while maintaining that identity, it's an impossibility in terms. It's why black people cannot be racist and there isn't such a thing as reverse racism.

Moreover, describing CRT as "examination" is hilarious. It's the only "examination" field where every practitioner's conclusions come down on the same side. The fights are internal squabbles entirely within the confines of an extremely narrow and radical worldview. It's a meritless advocacy movement of marxists masquerading as academic exploration.

Your response is non-responsive. It basically says “You didn’t read what you think you read.”

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You seem to be preoccupied with assigning blame. It's much more productive to focus on solutions or remedies than simply placing blame. Blaming doesn't accomplish anything.

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These posts are hilarious and ironic.

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When your side admits that culture and lack of parental involvement in education is the number one cause of poor performance by black students, then we can have a serious discussion about education.

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That's the goal of their side.

And, their complaint isn't about actually helping Black people...it's about having a tool that they believe perpetuates the low financial and social standing of black Americans...all for political power.

If you read the posts in this thread again, it's all about preserving CRT. Denying it exists. Attempting to redefine it. Obfuscating the issue. Making ridiculous claims trying to frame equity differently than it's used everywhere.

All of this is a defense of the leftist techniques and doesn't address helping black people at all. That's not a coincidence.

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In the real world, the little dude on the right would have 3 boxes to stand on, but his father wouldn't be there, his mother would be using one of the boxes to sit her fat arse down on while she keeps telling him that he doesn't want to see the game. Plus, there'd be 5-10 other little dudes that pull him down every time he tries to get on one of the two boxes.

And, people like you would be suggesting that he need to have the boxes from the two dudes on the left.

Ultimately, you will demand that the fence be removed because the little dude on the right is incapable of seeing the game on his own regardless of how many boxes you give him.

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He asked me to explain your definition of something. How is that dodging behind you?

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You could have simply said you either do or do not believe equity addresses disadvantages. Instead, you ran away from that to hide behind "Bard said it" when, in fact, all I did was quote an educational academic on it.

Speaking of educational academics, you've said:

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I have studied justice and equity and have never been taught that equity results in equal outcomes.

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Yet, in the very same post you posted this:



... a graphic depiction of equity being equal outcomes.

So which is it? That you have never been taught that equity is the push for equal outcomes or the graphic you posted which does?

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Understanding different perspectives and acknowledging that not everyone starts from the same place isn’t about being “fully versed in Marxist criticisms” it’s about having a basic sense of empathy and a desire to make the world a bit more fair for everyone

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That is a fine way to think. The problem is what comes next. Teaching that America is inherently evil and that’s because of white cis men is a way to get young people to hate the country and want it to be fundamentally changed. That desired change is the rub.

That and it is a tool to gain power. That’s the end game anyway.

Have all the empathy you want. Get out there and help all the people you want. That’s awesome.

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Actually, it’s less about the college I did or did not attend

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Uh huh. So a liberal arts school. Got it.

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when, in fact, all I did was quote an educational academic on it.

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I’m not going to interpret or defend your posts. Not sure why that surprises you? I don’t expect you to answer questions about my posts on my behalf either. In fact, I’d prefer if you didn’t.

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Yet, in the very same post you posted this:

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Yes. The people in the illustration now have equal access to watch the game. It doesn’t determine any winners or losers.