re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools

When your side admits that culture and lack of parental involvement in education is the number one cause of poor performance by black students, then we can have a serious discussion about education.

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Your gender studies degree?

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That is exactly what this clown sounds like, a gender studies student who learned a few new definitions but doesn’t have the real world experience to see how it’s actually been implemented in other states

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I'm sure you believe you're making a clever argument here, but it's not apparent so I'll need you to break it down for me

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I'm not making any argument. I'm referring to your own post.

This is what you posted:

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The worldview promotes the idea that if the person bleeding is white, he doesn't need a band aid and isn't actually bleeding.

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Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by this?

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In this image, equity is having equal access.

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So you have heard equity defined that way.

The people with more historic and systemic disadvantages will be the ones needing more crates to stand on.

If one were to remove the historic and systemic disadvantages, would there be anything limiting these communities from competing through a system that only guarantees equality of opportunity?

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by addressing historical and systematic disadvantages.

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Please explain exactly what these disadvantages are.

This should be interesting.

you'll have to ask Bard. That's who I quoted.

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you'll have to ask Bard. That's who I quoted.

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Yep, because she never makes threads/posts about such things. You might as well be asking her about tetraquarks. She doesn't have any clue what anyone is talking about.

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Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by this?

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Perhaps -

The concepts of equity, systemic racism, etc. are dependent on showing injustice in the aggregate - everything is based on class/group identification rather than individual scenarios or outcomes.

As a slight detour, it's why progressives moved from complaining about racism to whiteness, about rapes on campus to the broader "rape culture" and so on and so forth. Because these new grievances can cast everyone into a group of either oppressed or oppressor, rather than requiring evidence or even specific information about specific harm. Not only does it require less intellectual rigor to promote those arguments, it serves the cause better.

So with equity, especially in the context of race, black people are classified as victims and white people as perpetrators. This is essential to CRT and intersectionality. Thus, in the band aid/equity example, the concern isn't over remedying actual harm (the bleeding), it's in labeling everyone checking certain boxes as a victim and therefore bleeding (regardless of whether they are or not).

Someone outside of those classes isn't bleeding/suffering harm by virtue of their being outside of those classes, and thus they're ineligible for remedy (or at least put in the back of the line for remedy regardless of severity of the "bleeding.") And to add insult to injury, they're usually deemed immune from harm, but in fact, as the cause of everyone else's harm.

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Is your claim that racial advantages and disadvantages don't exist and have never existed in this country? And you're asking me for examples or instances of racial disadvantages?

Respectfully, I'm not playing these games. If you believe that everyone is and has always been equal, it's not my responsibility to prove otherwise to you.

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Just what I thought, you can’t give examples.

Just leftists word salad and projection.

You’re pathetic. Can’t even give examples. Come on cubbie, give me examples, educate me.

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The concepts of equity, systemic racism, etc. are dependent on showing injustice in the aggregate - everything is based on class/group identification rather than individual scenarios or outcomes.

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Historically, members of certain races were not treated as individuals, but were treated as a member of a class or group. We saw this in Nazi Germany. We saw this in the antebellum south and during Jim Crow. We saw this with Asians during and after WWII.

Are you claiming those things didn't happen? Or that those were the only isolated instances of individuals being stripped of their individuality and treated only as members of a class or group?

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As a slight detour, it's why progressives moved from complaining about racism to whiteness,

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I saw you complain about white people, but I haven't seen anyone else do that in this thread. And maybe you weren't complaining about white people, but were trying to make some sort of joke that I didn't get. Either way, I haven't read every post carefully, but I haven't noticed anyone vilifying white people - especially not "progressives." This is a major misconception that has been internalized by some posters here and I'm not sure why.

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cast everyone into a group of either oppressed or oppressor

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Has this language been used in this thread?

My perception (and it could be wrong) is that some people feel so guilty about being white that they take every criticism of any white person personally. I don't understand why some people get so defensive when racial disadvantages are brought up. No one alive today is personally responsible for slavery, Jim Crow, racial discrimination in housing, etc. Acknowledging that these things existed and may still exist today doesn't mean that anyone participating in the discussion is to blame for it. It's just acknowledging facts.

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So with equity, especially in the context of race, black people are classified as victims and white people as perpetrators.

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Not necessarily. You seem to be preoccupied with assigning blame. It's much more productive to focus on solutions or remedies than simply placing blame. Blaming doesn't accomplish anything.

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This is essential to CRT and intersectionality.

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It's not. That's what I've been saying this whole time. CRT is examining social structures and the role race played in many systems like housing, voting, education, etc. It's academic scholarship, not a discussion board post that can be summed up by "It's whitey's fault."

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Thus, in the band aid/equity example, the concern isn't over remedying actual harm (the bleeding), it's in labeling everyone checking certain boxes as a victim and therefore bleeding (regardless of whether they are or not).

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This is does not align with my understanding of CRT. Why do you think this?

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Someone outside of those classes isn't bleeding/suffering harm by virtue of their being outside of those classes, and thus they're ineligible for remedy (or at least put in the back of the line for remedy regardless of severity of the "bleeding.") And to add insult to injury, they're usually deemed immune from harm, but in fact, as the cause of everyone else's harm.

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This is your own victimhood. Who has said that white people don't experience harm? You are the only person who I've seen suggest this.