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re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools

Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98279 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:50 pm to
Are you really trying to defend CRT bullshite this hard?

Holy frick you have to be seriously deranged. This is like saying common core math is good
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:43 pm to
Your work in Guatemala is truly commendable, and I have a lot of respect for the impact you’re making in people’s lives. Global efforts like yours are incredibly important, so thank you truly.

However, our current discussion is focused on domestic policy, specifically education in America. The challenges we face here are different from those in developing countries. It’s about ensuring that every student in the US (paid for by our tax dollars) has access to the resources and opportunities they need to succeed.

If you want to discuss global oppression, I’m happy to engage in that conversation too.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:49 pm to
I don’t believe a word of it. He is routinely a total a-hole on the internet behind the cloak of anonymity; in other words, a total coward. Why would someone who values other humans behave this way every single day? I don’t buy it.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41331 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:51 pm to
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specifically education in America.


Where if you’re white or Asian it’s harder to get into certain colleges and programs due to your race? Do you really want to go there
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:53 pm to
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I don’t believe a word of it. He is routinely a total a-hole on the internet


"The internet" is not a real human. Its full of actors and charades.

For many, "the internet" is an outlet, not a mirror. We dump shite here.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:00 pm to
Someone just pretends to be an a-hole for hours every single day for the hell of it but is actually an upstanding citizen? If that’s what you tell yourself…

Decent humans don’t spend hours a day insulting strangers online.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:03 pm to
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Sure, some of the historic and systematic disadvantages that I see, past and present (I understand some of these issues have improved, but their impacts can affect generations) are Jim Crow Laws, Redlining, Educational funding, war on drugs/mass incarceration, employment discrimination, housing discrimination and voting restrictions.
Jim Crow Laws were created by Democrats and ended almost 60 years ago. Get over it.

Redlining? Never happened. Good credit is required to get loans.

Educational funding? The US spends more money per student than any country in the world. Blame Department of Ed and school boards for wasting money.

War on drugs/mass incarceration? Black commit more crimes.

Employment discrimination? Ever heard of affirmative action? Get an education, learn to speak and dress properly and you will get a job.

Housing discrimination? Have good credit and good references, no problem.

Voting restrictions? What voting restrictions are there on blacks? Please enlighten me.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:10 pm to
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Redlining? Never happened


The federal government begs to differ.

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Redlining Practices before 1968

The federal government played a key role in institutionalizing and encouraging redlining through the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). The FHA was the architect of federally sponsored redlining from 1934 until the 1960s. Other federal agencies, such as the Federal Reserve, regulated the banks and thrifts that originated or bought FHA-insured loans. Of the interactions between the Federal Reserve and the FHA, not much has been written. Fed Chair Marriner Eccles was intimately involved in drafting the legislation that created the FHA but left little record of his views about the FHA's redlining practices. One biographer of Eccles concludes that redlining was "one major failing of the FHA that Eccles, and very few others at the time, even bothered to mention."2

The FHA was tasked with insuring "economically sound" loans, as part of an overhaul of the system of residential mortgage finance that had been decimated by the Depression. The FHA began redlining at the very beginning of its operations in 1934, as FHA staff concluded that no loan could be economically sound if the property was located in a neighborhood that was or could become populated by Black people, as property values might decline over the life of the 15- to 20-year loans they were attempting to standardize. For example, the FHA's 1938 Underwriting Manual emphasized the negative impact of "infiltration of inharmonious racial groups" on credit risk. To limit that risk, it recommended restrictive covenants that prohibit "the occupancy of properties except by the race for which they are intended," which had become increasingly common in the 1920s. For the next few decades, the FHA generally favored loans on new construction in suburban areas rather than urban areas with older housing stocks or Black residents.3

Prior to the creation of the FHA, many banks were highly restricted in the amount of mortgage loans they were allowed to make.4 Mortgage loans were historically considered risky by those who had crafted federal banking law. Regulators such as the Federal Reserve feared that banks could be unable to pay depositors on demand if their funds were locked up in mortgages, especially since the secondary market for mortgages was limited historically. The advent of FHA insurance in the 1930s led to new federal bank regulations that encouraged banks to hold FHA-insured loans. FHA-insured loans were viewed as relatively safe given the federal insurance and because the uniform nature of FHA-insured loans supported a secondary market that made the loans relatively easy to sell if needed. As a result, banks originated roughly half of the mortgages insured by the Federal Housing Administration from 1935 to 1941.5

Federal policy reflected segregation in American society at large. While the FHA institutionalized redlining, the practice did not originate with the federal government, and public and private redlining were fundamentally intertwined.6

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Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68835 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:10 pm to
CRT is not included in school curricula prior to college. It’s a false issue and just more grandstanding by
Landry.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68835 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:11 pm to
Don’t worry, it was never going to happen.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61461 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:12 pm to
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War on drugs/mass incarceration? Black commit more crimes.


Blacks are arrested more. There is no way of knowing who commits more crimes, only who is arrested at higher rates.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90774 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:13 pm to
Bwhaha
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Don’t worry, it was never going to happen.
Then why are you big mad?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:17 pm to
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Decent humans don’t spend hours a day insulting strangers online.


You don’t know that.

It depends on whom you are interacting with on the internet.

I hate communazis.

But I like most people outside of that group.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Blacks are arrested more.
Yeah, because they’re dumb criminals.
quote:

There is no way of knowing who commits more crimes, only who is arrested at higher rates.
You’re such a fricking dumbass.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59305 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:21 pm to
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I’m not going to interpret or defend your posts. Not sure why that surprises you? I don’t expect you to answer questions about my posts on my behalf either. In fact, I’d prefer if you didn’t.


And yet you still are avoiding answering whether you think equity takes disadvantages into account or not in order to achieve equality.

Do you think that or not?

quote:

The people in the illustration now have equal access to watch the game.


The outcome was the ability to watch the game and that was what was measured.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:25 pm to
Ok, do high profile crimes like disproportionate murder rates rather than drugs
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:31 pm to
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CRT is not included in school curricula prior to college. It’s a false issue


Sociology allows teachers to wade into the stupidity that is CRT.

Leftist goose-stepping teachers did so.

The result, the subject is being removed.

You are ignorant on the matter, I am not.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:32 pm to
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Blacks are arrested more. There is no way of knowing who commits more crimes, only who is arrested at higher rates.


Your ignorance is stunning.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158000 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:35 pm to
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There is no way of knowing who commits more crimes


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