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Living fossil John Paul Stevens thinks the 2nd Amendment should be changed

Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:40 am
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Since Stevens believes that the authors of the Second Amendment were primarily concerned about the threat that a national standing army posed to the sovereignty of the states—as opposed to homeowners’ anxiety about violent felons—he thinks the best way to fix the situation is to amend the Second Amendment. He’d do that by adding five words as follows: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the militia shall not be infringed. To support the change, he argues: “Emotional claims that the right to possess deadly weapons is so important that it is protected by the federal Constitution distort intelligent debate about the wisdom of particular aspects of proposed legislation designed to minimize the slaughter caused by the prevalence of guns in private hands.”



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This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 10:43 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70393 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:43 am to
At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82223 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.



This^^^

It is the way it is supposed to be done, not by "interpretation" and "re-interpretation".

I don't support his view of the issue, but I do support his view of the process.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19303 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:51 am to
quote:

proposed legislation designed to minimize the slaughter caused by the prevalence of guns in private hands




Because more government is always the answer.

Never mind the fact that our violent crime rate has steadily dropped in the past 20 or so years.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49392 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:01 am to
Good luck getting 2/3 vote of Congress and 3/4 of the states to ratify.

But at least he acknowledges the correct process.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63508 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:08 am to
Oh, now Stevens is an originalist.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:15 am to
Well that's it...the Stevens family isn't getting a Xmas card from me this year.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24771 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:16 am to
quote:

At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.


Agreed.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:24 am to
His reading comprehension is poor. The words of the document as to be defined are they are written, no conjecture.
The militia and the rkba are two different entities.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:52 am to
Who cares what the constitution says, or what this "lawmaker" says? If you want a gun, then have a gun. I'm glad of what's happening in CT. We need to stop humoring these people. They don't own us. They don't represent us.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

quote:
At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.


This^^^

It is the way it is supposed to be done, not by "interpolation" and "re-interpolation".

I don't support his view of the issue, but I do support his view of the process.


FIFY
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:08 pm to
Fortunately, it would take the consent of 38 states to edit or repeal the Second Amendment.

EDIT: I've also heard a couple of liberal pundits call for the repeal of the Second Amendment.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19458 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:12 pm to
I'm sure the weasel is guarded by guys with guns at his palace.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.

Yep, awesome. Let's see how far it gets.


I predict it will get to about here -->|


...and then everyone will just go about their business.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77199 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Never mind the fact that our violent crime rate has steadily dropped in the past 20 or so years.
Lowest it has been in 40 years, if I recall correctly.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders.


Yep.

For as bad as Stevens statement was, you still have to give him points for acknowledging the correct process. The very same process liberals refuse to take because it's too hard.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8456 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Since Stevens believes that the authors of the Second Amendment were primarily concerned about the threat that a national standing army posed to the sovereignty of the states—as opposed to homeowners’ anxiety about violent felons



He would be wrong.

Any drive-by history lesson into the founding father's thoughts on the 2A would debunk this theory.

The founding father's belief is quite clear...and that is private ownership of weapons is paramount to the security of the state and protection from government tyranny. Period.

Amen.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42546 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:04 pm to
Exactly
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115146 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

At least he's proposing amending the constitution to support his goals rather than passing it by executive order, unelected judges, U.N. treaties, or Congressional budget riders


This.

Interesting he bases this on the original intent of protecting state sovereignty, especially since he's been a leader in completely eviscerating it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:10 pm to
I dont agree, but at least he wants to go about it honestly and the way things were designed to be changed.

Most want to just reinterpret it and and fap over the word "militia".
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