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re: Listening to SCOTUS Birthright argument: WE ARE FRICKED
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:51 am to Ailsa
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:51 am to Ailsa
I want full asset forfeiture of all deported individuals. Whatever is past "Fatigue" when it comes to illegal aliens, I'm there, I've been there, and my mail is forwarded there as I don't plan on leaving for the next few decades.
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:51 am to TwoFace
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So even if the majority of Americans support it, our unreliable crooked arse congress will never put it to a true vote.
As posters on this board are quick to remind us, we dont live in a Democracy.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:53 am to Covingtontiger77
Peeking in this thread, I've read so many arguments regarding the intention of the framers regarding the 14th amendment.
Ironically, those same arguments are used by people who want to abolish or reframe the 2nd amendment.
Proof that no one really has convictions.
Ironically, those same arguments are used by people who want to abolish or reframe the 2nd amendment.
Proof that no one really has convictions.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:54 am to Covingtontiger77
Guys how is the USA fricked? If Trump loses the case then we go back to what we have already been doing which is enforcing the immigration laws that have been written. Those laws do not stop us from deporting illegal immigrants if they have children.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:54 am to ATrillionaire
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Peeking in this thread, I've read so many arguments regarding the intention of the framers regarding the 14th amendment.
Ironically, those same arguments are used by people who want to abolish or reframe the 2nd amendment.
Proof that no one really has convictions.
Except me and a few others posting ITT like Taxing Attorney and Ingeniero
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Cite the part of the ruling that specifically referenced work permits.
The narrative of the presenting attorneys of his case outlined the legal working status of both he and his parents as being domiciled by those means.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can be an illegal immigrant and be domiciled in the United States.
Not legally.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:57 am to DByrd2
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The narrative of the presenting attorneys of his case outlined the legal working status of both he and his parents as being domiciled by those means.
I didn't ask you for the argument. I'm specifically asking where in the ruling it discussed "work permit"
Here is the text
I searched "Permit" and found 13 examples, none apply to your argument (every example of such being its use as a verb and not a noun).
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:57 am to tide06
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Trump doesn’t have real control over the legislative branch or they would’ve passed a bunch of stuff they haven’t ie the voting bill which is stalled.
It’s not just Thune. He told Speaker Johnson and the rest of the House to turn off their brains and quit trying to pass legislation.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:58 am to ATrillionaire
I've grown very weary of both sides being hypocrites when it comes to the Constitution. Of course my situation is different, mine is an emergency!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Other than the text, which is the most important factor
Why is "tradition of application" the most important factor when it comes to Article 1, Section 4, then, and not the text?
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:01 pm to thejuiceisloose
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What was the intention then?
To give citizenship to former slaves and their children. Obviously.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Except me
Unless we're talking about Article 1, Section 4.
In that case, not you either.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:02 pm to TBoy
The left has stretched and distorted the intent of constitution, Marc Fatboy Elias agrees with
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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To give citizenship to former slaves and their children. Obviously.
Would have been easy enough to include that in the text.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:How dare you!
ITT like Taxing Attorney
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:04 pm to wackatimesthree
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Unless we're talking about Article 1, Section 4.
Let's not derail this thread with a straw man please
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:04 pm to BugAC
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I never realized you were such a strict constitutionalist. The 2A crowd welcomes you!
This was all I could think as I listened to the arguments this morning.
In a week the same people screaming "CONSTITUTIONAL!!!!" will be arguing that the Second Amendment is "outdated" and "not what the framers intended" and needs to be changed or abolished.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:09 pm to Hot Carl
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This is a slippery slope. “THERE WERE NO HIGH POWERED AUTOMATIC RIFLES WHEN THE 2nd AMENDMENT WAS PASSED.” You can’t pick and choose when you use this kind of logic based on whether or not you like that particular law.
How about this logic. It just doesn't make any damn sense that a non citizen can birth a baby in the United States, and that child automatically becomes a citizen.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:10 pm to AGGIES
Please.....both Houses of Congress are quite content to drag this out. Thune passes a bill with Democrat help that he knows the House will not accept because the Democrats in the House along with a majority of Republicans would accept partially because Democrats would be on board but Johnson rejects it because Democrats are on board....and Johnson does not want to risk his position on this......or Trump possibly vets it because there has been no consensus on the SAVE Act in the Senate.
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