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Libertarians: which, if any, of these foreign interventions were justified?

Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:55 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74144 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:55 pm
1) Barbary wars
2) Berlin airlift
3) european theater of ww2
4) first gulf war
5) Mexican American war
6) US entry into Mexico during their revolution
7) Bosnia and Herzegovina
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:57 pm to
What point are you trying to make?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19210 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:57 pm to
The one that was lost and really set the tone forever was Eve against Adam. Paradise wasn’t enough and she wanted more
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2289 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 8:02 pm to
Remember that time you posted how you hoped journalists that criticize Israel were arrested and buried in Tel Aviv?

Get fricked, bozo.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50456 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 8:07 pm to
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7) Bosnia and Herzegovina




You mean the NATO led butcher of Yugoslavia?


- Rambouillet Agreement fraud
- Racak massacre false flag


War is a racket


then fricking General Wesley Clark acts all innocent about being told later of Iraq ??





and of course Slobodan Miloševic died in a prison cell, conveniently...
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:00 pm to
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1) Barbary wars


Justified. Our sailors were being kidnapped and pressed into service.

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2) Berlin airlift

This was a humanitarian mission. It didn’t violate the non-aggression principle. It literally protected private property rights and freedoms for the people of West Berlin. I think the ROI was pretty good for what taxpayers spent, but some would argue it was unnecessary and expensive, but no shots fired. Blockades tend to be violent things, and we peacefully circumvented one.

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european theater of ww2


The Germans declared War on us before we even set foot in Europe. Had we declared on them first, Libertarians might have had a bone to pick. While I would argue that we were already actively involved vis cash & carry and lend lease, Germany was engaged in total war for full global conquest, and they declared on us. Justified.

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Mexican American war

This wasn’t justified. Great ROI, but America offered to buy California, Mexico refused, so we invaded Mexico by claiming the border was somewhere further south than it was, then shot at the Mexicans when they showed up to kick us out, then conquered Mexico City and bought California for half price. Personally, I like the additions we made to our nation, but it was a clear violation of the nonaggression principle.

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US entry into Mexico during their revolution


I’m not sure which intervention you’re talking about. If you’re referring to the 1860’s, this was a Monroe Doctrine action to keep a European power from re-colonizing the New World. We have been against this since the War of 1812. Our forces were also invited. It’s arguable, but I would justify it.

If you’re referring to the early 20th century, this was necessary due to frequent raids by Mexican militias and bandits into U.S. territory that were killing American citizens. This was necessary to protect lives and property rights in border regions. Justified.

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7) Bosnia and Herzegovina


Preventing an active genocide is typically a nice thing to do. However, the Bozniaks and Serbs posed no threat to Americans. This wasn’t really our problem. Unjustified, but probably a good thing for the rest of the world.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24554 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:01 pm to
Lol you dipshits want US journalists jailed

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This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 9:02 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:03 pm to
1. Barbary Wars: Justified. These were defensive actions against Barbary pirates who were seizing American ships, enslaving crews, and demanding tribute. The U.S. response protected vital trade routes and asserted independence from extortion, aligning with self-defense principles under international norms of the time.

2. Berlin Airlift: Justified. The Soviet blockade of West Berlin violated post-WWII agreements and threatened civilian starvation. The airlift was a peaceful, humanitarian operation to sustain the population and uphold Allied rights without escalating to war.

3. European Theater of WW2: Justified. U.S. entry followed Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor and Germany’s declaration of war, but the broader context involved stopping Nazi aggression, occupation of Europe, and the Holocaust. It was a necessary alliance to defeat totalitarian expansion and genocide.

4. First Gulf War: Justified. Iraq’s unprovoked invasion and annexation of Kuwait violated international law. The U.S.-led coalition acted under UN Security Council authorization to restore sovereignty and deter aggression.

5. Mexican-American War: Not justified. This was largely an expansionist conflict driven by U.S. manifest destiny ambitions, with disputed border incidents used as a pretext to seize Mexican territory. It’s widely viewed as imperialistic and provocative.

6. US Entry into Mexico During Their Revolution (referring to the 1916-1917 Pancho Villa Expedition): Justified. It was a limited punitive response to Villa’s cross-border raid on Columbus, New Mexico, which killed U.S. civilians and soldiers. The incursion aimed to capture Villa without broader occupation.

7. Bosnia and Herzegovina (referring to U.S./NATO intervention in the 1990s Bosnian War): Justified. The operation halted ethnic cleansing, mass atrocities, and genocide in the Yugoslav breakup. It had UN backing and focused on humanitarian protection and peacekeeping.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22859 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:03 pm to
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The one that was lost and really set the tone forever was Eve against Adam. Paradise wasn’t enough and she wanted more



Exactly. Then men, given more strength and power naturally, enable women to take those advantages away with their right to vote.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9698 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:11 pm to
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You mean the NATO led butcher of Yugoslavia?




Yugoslavia was when Putin decided the West couldn’t be trusted
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 9:12 pm
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7018 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:13 pm to
This is such a stupid question.

You should have specified from which side your perspective would be from each war, like Spanish American…Mexican perspective or American perspective. Your question would still be dumb, but less ignorant.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50456 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:54 pm to
Yes sir
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
83899 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

1) Barbary wars
Direct attack on US personnel
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5) Mexican American war
They tricked us into coming to fight the Comanche for them, then tried to evict us when we did just that.

Texas won independence, joined the US. Mexico tried to reassert their claim, not recognizing the treaty of Velasco.

frick them

Defense of the homeland
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102632 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:11 pm to
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The one that was lost and really set the tone forever was Eve against Adam. Paradise wasn’t enough and she wanted more


Proof you cannot please a woman. Not even God can do it
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102632 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Great ROI, but America offered to buy California


In hindsight, should have let them keep it
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20083 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:32 pm to
Half of that shiit happened bc of other isht. For example, us entering ww1 caused all kinds of crap. Even churchill said so.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:32 am to
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What point are you trying to make?


That the United States’ military perpetually serving as Israel’s Palace Guard is a sacred and holy rite. This is the primary tenant of the neocon faith.

This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 6:33 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11149 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:23 am to
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1. Barbary Wars: Justified. These were defensive actions against Barbary pirates who were seizing American ships, enslaving crews, and demanding tribute. The U.S. response protected vital trade routes and asserted independence from extortion, aligning with self-defense principles under international norms of the time.


Also to add Jefferson gave explicit instructions to not pursue into harbors, take no prisoners, and upon capturing a ship cast all cannons/weapons into the sea and release the crews.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5409 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:30 am to
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Yugoslavia was when Putin decided the West couldn’t be trusted


Why? How did he know that our state dept played an active role in destabilizing former Yugoslavia? I mean most here still do not know that our state dept funded, trained and supplied a handful of groups, between 1991 and 1997, that are now considered "terror groups". Groups that were used to promote violence on behalf of the ethnic groups.

I find it funny. By all measures, ethnic tensions were very low in ex-Yugoslavia in 1990. Tensions between the nations are very low now (only place is "Serb Republic" a wannabe ethnicly Serb country inside Bosnia). Yet no one asks "how did it flash so quickly and violently?". Answer is, it only takes a handful.
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