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Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:14 pm to BamaAtl
quote:How about the fact it is not a criminal offense, IF it occurred it is a civil offense.
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He didn't pay with campaign funds.
Doesn't matter.
(besides, Cohen said he paid Stormy out of his own funds, not Trumps, not the campaign either)
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Swing and a miss, strike 2!
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:16 pm to BugAC
What was the corrupt intent? He didn't want Mueller to find out that he didn't participate in a conspiracy with the Russians to influence the election?
It's a dry fricking hole, dude!
It's a dry fricking hole, dude!
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:16 pm to Sidicous
quote:
esides, Cohen said he paid Stormy out of his own funds, not Trumps, not the campaign either)
This is true as well. Forgot about that.
Come on BamaAtl....surely you have something. With all of your knowledge of the Mueller report, certainly you can just post the instance of obstruction you keep saying exists. Certainly, you aren't just saying things and hoping to fade away from the thread, and not get embarrassed, right?
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:17 pm to BamaAtl
Ask John Edwards if it matters.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:23 pm to BugAC
Let me let you in on a little secret:
BamaATL hasn't actually read the report. Neither have the other proggies parroting the "evidence of obstruction" talking points.
BamaATL hasn't actually read the report. Neither have the other proggies parroting the "evidence of obstruction" talking points.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:29 pm to Centinel
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BamaATL hasn't actually read the report. Neither have the other proggies parroting the "evidence of obstruction" talking points.
I know. Hell not 1 single democrat lawmaker on capitol hill has read it. Of course i know BamaAtl hasn't read it.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:30 pm to BugAC
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Come on BamaAtl....surely you have something. With all of your knowledge of the Mueller report, certainly you can just post the instance of obstruction you keep saying exists.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:31 pm to Centinel
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BamaATL hasn't actually read the report. Neither have the other proggies parroting the "evidence of obstruction" talking points.
One doesn't have to look much farther than Ken Starr's report to see how a Special Counsel can outline what crimes were committed and recommend that the President be impeached based on evidence found.
Mueller does neither, instead opting to list several things would might, could be, possibly interpreted as Obstruction. Which he then declines to recommend action on.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:31 pm to tigerinDC09
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There were at least 5 instances where Mueller indicates that the 3 requirements for Obstruction of justice were met.
This is a lie. He was told yesterday it was a lie. Yet he is still posting the lie. Pathetic.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:35 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:36 pm to BamaAtl
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He violated federal election law by paying his porn star mistress to keep quiet in the midst of the 2016 electio
No he didn’t. Cohen made the payment. Cohen May have violated the law. (Not likely). In fact, Trump was surreptitiously recorded, and on this recording he specifically states any payment must be “on the up and up”. Were you ignorant or being dishonest when you posted this one?
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He violated self-dealing laws with the Trump Foundation
Not a crime, moron. And he likely didn’t even violate them. Are you familiar with the self-dealing rules and the exceptions? Of course you aren’t. You just listed violation of them as crimes. What an idiot. Were you ignorant or being dishonest when you posted this one?
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He obstructed justice at least 10 times, as detailed in the Mueller report (which you obviously haven't read).
Let’s discuss these. Name 1 incident and let’s apply the elements. Did you not read the report, where Muelwlr specifically said he made no determination. Didn’t even attempt to evaluate?
You won’t discuss, because you are a moron. Were you ignorant or dishonest when you posted this one?
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
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tigerinDC09
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There were at least 5 instances where Mueller indicates that the 3 requirements for Obstruction of justice were met. This is a lie. He was told yesterday it was a lie. Yet he is still posting the lie. Pathetic.
He, along with most the other commie lib trolls on this board, are paid to lie. We should ignore them.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:50 pm to bamarep
There's only one liberal in here even attempting to name a crime and can't. 
That should tell you something. None of the resident libs want to come to the reality Trump has never broken the law, he respects women, he loves teh gays, he loves the Mehicans, and is getting more black support.
Sky-screaming commence!
That should tell you something. None of the resident libs want to come to the reality Trump has never broken the law, he respects women, he loves teh gays, he loves the Mehicans, and is getting more black support. Sky-screaming commence!
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:02 pm to BugAC
BamaAtl has ZERO credibility. The rest of the libs on here weren't as dumb as BamaAtl. Deflect, dismiss, dodge, detour, discredit etc. Basically doing what the "D's" are known for.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:04 pm to jimmy the leg
Appropriate since dodgeball is in the news today
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:08 pm to jimmy the leg
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BamaAtl has ZERO credibility. The rest of the libs on here weren't as dumb as BamaAtl. Deflect, dismiss, dodge, detour, discredit etc. Basically doing what the "D's" are known for.
BamaAtl on this (or any) post.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:15 pm to tigerinDC09
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There were at least 5 instances where Mueller indicates that the 3 requirements for Obstruction of justice were met.
Yet buried at the end of each of those long winded explanations outlining possible obstruction Mueller himself begrudgingly admits he couldn't clearly conclude that an act of obstruction had been committed which leads to an obvious logical takeaway of Section 2 of the Mueller report....
The Mueller report was a political smear/hatchet job that would never withstand the scrutiny of an actual prosecutorial trial. The report in at least a couple of instances left out exculpatory evidence favorable to Trump and his associates and therefore lacked the proper context required when making a criminal case against a defendant. The report was incredibly ambiguous (likely by design) in order to provide a road map for impeachment. The slimy, disingenuous way in which the report infers instances of obstruction while simultaneously concluding tiny blurbs actually admitting a lack of solid evidence to conclude an act of obstruction in each instance reeks of a political smear to provide cover and political fodder for an incredibly weak case that lacked evidence from the very beginning.
Mueller's odd statement about not being able to exonerate Trump (a standard antithetical to ever concept of due process and presumption of innocence this country's judicial system was founded on makes that obvious. His refusal to answer questions before Congress is the icing on the cake. The entire Mueller report and investigation was, is, and has been a national disgrace.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:21 pm to Sidicous
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(besides, Cohen said he paid Stormy out of his own funds, not Trumps, not the campaign either)
He was reimbursed by Trump. It wasn't Cohen's funds and he knew that at the time of the payment.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:22 pm to Centinel
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BamaATL hasn't actually read the report.
I have - it's very thorough explanation of why impeachment proceedings should begin.
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