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re: Liberal debates Trumps conviction and is asked what crime he committed
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:32 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:32 am to RaoulDuke504
Michael Knowles is great. He's really the best The Daily Wire has.
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:33 am to hogcard1964
He just has a bad case of TDS. The DA had to completely ignore the law to prosecute it to begin with.
Then any judge with a functional brain should have dismissed it with prejudice for a host of reasons, but the judge is a Biden donor who likely has a book deal already set, a political appointment by Biden, a pretty significant bribe that was funneled to him or all of the above.
It will likely be years before it gets to the Supreme Court, who will toss it and should censure the judge to boot.
Then any judge with a functional brain should have dismissed it with prejudice for a host of reasons, but the judge is a Biden donor who likely has a book deal already set, a political appointment by Biden, a pretty significant bribe that was funneled to him or all of the above.
It will likely be years before it gets to the Supreme Court, who will toss it and should censure the judge to boot.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:36 am to SDVTiger
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That francessca gal is the worst
shes one of those we shouldnt have separate divisions for men and women in sports.
I tend to think these people are full of it and know it.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm explaining the law apolitically and without any personal opinion or preference. Pure, objective analysis/responses.
A) No, because even CNN has admitted this case is entirely political and bullshite.
B) You’re not objective, you have a terminal case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
The falsification of business records could be as simple as a journal entry mistake or an actual intent to hide. The intent part would’ve depended on if someone was doctoring books, then those someone’s would be as liable or if directed the the whole group would. Now where it gets interesting is if Cohen was turning in itemized billing or a charge for that month. If it was a charge like I see normally with say hourly, supplies or such then it would just go legal expenses. If it was broken down to say hourly, hookers & payoffs, supplies and hotel reimbursements then journaling would need to happen as such. If I recall correctly the info came out that billing just showed dollar amounts only. Intent of falsifying would be a stretch unless jury wasn’t paying attention or defense was not allowed to clarify.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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The crime he was convicted of was Falsifying business records
your liberal cohort doesnt even know that though, now what crime was he concealing?
Sleeping with a porn star isnt a crime.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:39 am to Covingtontiger77
Are you retarded? Is it really your belief that a story involving infidelity would have only impacted NY voters?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:39 am to Nosevens
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Now where it gets interesting is if Cohen was turning in itemized billing or a charge for that month. If it was a charge like I see normally with say hourly, supplies or such then it would just go legal expenses. If it was broken down to say hourly, hookers & payoffs, supplies and hotel reimbursements then journaling would need to happen as such. If I recall correctly the info came out that billing just showed dollar amounts only. Intent of falsifying would be a stretch unless jury wasn’t paying attention or defense was not allowed to clarify.
Or if the jury was told why the invoices were only a dollar amount, which is the fundamental issue with the entire scheme.
Nathan Wade's bullshite billing was more legally proper than Cohen's. Think about that
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:40 am to RaoulDuke504
Lulz. That’s a case of tds
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:40 am to dgnx6
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now what crime was he concealing?
There are many options. I already stated the 2 strongest and the ones I'd focus on if I were tasked with prosecuting this case.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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The jury can be given many options to choose from.
Yes, but they all have to agree beyond a reasonable doubt on one or all of those options. You can’t have four jurors thinking he murdered someone, four jurors think he raped someone, and another four thinking that he jaywalked. You can’t convict on that shite.
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Again, go back to my post that you keep ignoring to understand how this will need to be done at the re-trial.
There’s not going to be a retrial, it’s going to the Supreme Court where it will be overturned in a 9-0 decision.
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It will be remanded for re-trial, again, as I have said.
You do know that appealing to the Supreme Court isn’t a retrial, right? It goes there to see if conviction is constitutionally viable, which it isn’t.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:41 am to reddy tiger
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Are you retarded? Is it really your belief that a story involving infidelity would have only impacted NY voters?
But the story was old and already out there.
Who didnt know about this?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Can you point us to the statute that outlines the correct way to record expenses in a ledger?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:... and given an impartial jury, you'd be laughed out of court.
(1) Cohen's crimes that are a matter of record and (2) NY state tax laws. If they paid me to run the litigation, that's what I'd do.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:44 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:... expenses paid to a lawyer for services rendered, at that.
Can you point us to the statute that outlines the correct way to record expenses in a ledger?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:44 am to OMLandshark
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Yes, but they all have to agree beyond a reasonable doubt on one or all of those options.
OH, so you did read my post on page 1 finally? Whew
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You can’t have four jurors thinking he murdered someone, four jurors think he raped someone, and another four thinking that he jaywalked. You can’t convict on that shite.
I understand, and I already specifically addressed this on page 1. I kept telling you to go back and read.
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Now, as I have stated many times, the reason why the above statement is true (the jury instructions/rulings on the issue, specifically the non-unanimity issue) is likely going to lead to the conviction being reversed and sent back down for re-trial.
See? WAY ahead of you.
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There’s not going to be a retrial, it’s going to the Supreme Court where it will be overturned in a 9-0 decision.
That's not how it works. If a jury instruction or ruling were improper, it's remanded for re-trial with that defect cured (so in this case, the jury would have to choose an associated crime unanimously and specifically).
The only way this completely goes away is if the statute itself is ruled Unconstitutional (which is highly unlikely).
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You do know that appealing to the Supreme Court isn’t a retrial, right?
Yes, its' an appeal where they can address legal, procedural, or constitutional defects in the trial.
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It goes there to see if conviction is constitutionally viable, which it isn’t.
If there was a legal ruling or procedural issue, the court will state they were improper, then remand it for re-trial, and at re-trial, the trial court won't be able to repeat the offending issues.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:45 am to NC_Tigah
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... expenses paid to a lawyer for services rendered, at that.
But that is specifically not what they paid, which is why the invoices are alleged as fraudulent.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
What ledger was exactly falsified? The transaction was noted, it didnt circumvent a tax code.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:46 am to NC_Tigah
Wasn't the statute of limitations already in play?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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The only way this completely goes away is if the statute itself is ruled Unconstitutional (which is highly unlikely).
No, that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Plus a mistrial with prejudice due to the judge, the DA, and the judge’s daughter. It’s 9-0 as well.
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