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re: Let's talk Ukraine. Was there a Coup in 2014?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:56 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:56 am to Jjdoc
Numerous threads have been posted here that have established a coup in Ukraine - Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls, calling the shots.
Since the globetrotting war enterprise really got started, Nuland has been in every administration except one - Trump's.
Since the globetrotting war enterprise really got started, Nuland has been in every administration except one - Trump's.
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:42 am to Jjdoc
quote:Soooo, let's see. The democratically elected President of Ukraine was run out of the country by an armed mob the day after they put several bullet holes in the Presidential limo carrying his family. Constitutionality was ignored in the ensuing powergrab. Non-aligned factions correctly termed the usurping group a junta.
"It was not a COUP"
Who the f#*K would say that was not a coup? and who the f#*K would be stupid enough to believe them?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:04 am to Jjdoc
It’s difficult to find any objective write up on the revolution that you can feel is factual and not slanted propaganda. That said, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence to suggest the US and US sponsored NGOs were heavily involved in fomenting unrest via a color revolution and even admitted their objectives openly or in leaks.
The scary part is Ukraine is a tragic example of how a population can be manipulated by the elites and rally behind concepts that lead to their own self destruction. Given what we know now Ukraine would have been much better off assuming a neutral position, trying to reconcile their pro and anti Russian factions and becoming the trade hub between European and Russian interests.
They did not though and now I bet a lot of those young protestors are at room temperature as a result of the ongoing war and destruction of their country.
The scary part is Ukraine is a tragic example of how a population can be manipulated by the elites and rally behind concepts that lead to their own self destruction. Given what we know now Ukraine would have been much better off assuming a neutral position, trying to reconcile their pro and anti Russian factions and becoming the trade hub between European and Russian interests.
They did not though and now I bet a lot of those young protestors are at room temperature as a result of the ongoing war and destruction of their country.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 6:06 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:18 am to Jjdoc
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3- we did partake in the coup and we did it for: - money - resources..
We don’t need money or resources from Ukraine.
IMO we did it because we have politicians, bureaucrats and MIC types that are still fighting the Cold War and look at the people and countries of the world as disposable pieces in their personal game of risk. Also, we obviously didn’t like Russia expanding trade….especially energy…with Europe.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:51 am to POTUS2024
Here is the Nuland/Pyatt phone call. They say to keep Klitschko and neo-nazi Tyahnybok on the outside. "Yats is the guy." Also, "frick the EU." 
Draw your own conclusions.
LINK
Watch Ukraine on Fire and Revealing Ukraine on Rumble.
Draw your own conclusions. LINK
Watch Ukraine on Fire and Revealing Ukraine on Rumble.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:10 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:50 am to Bunk Moreland
this whole ukraine war is nothing more than an american exercise to bring about regime change in russia. they want putin gone so they can put in their people and assume control. just like it happened in ukraine. regime change is something america is very good at. like lindsey graham says, this is money well spent in ukraine.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:01 am to Jjdoc
Depends on perspective, if you supported the Russian controlled government they established it could be called a coup.
If you were a Ukrainian appreciating sovereignty and wanting to leave the Russian shite zone it was a color revolution just like other freedom loving people organized.
If you were a Ukrainian appreciating sovereignty and wanting to leave the Russian shite zone it was a color revolution just like other freedom loving people organized.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:00 am to CarrolltonTiger
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If you were a Ukrainian appreciating sovereignty and wanting to leave the Russian shite zone it was a color revolution just like other freedom loving people organize
So overturning the results of an election isn’t insurrection and a threat to democracy?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:09 am to Jjdoc
You've turned into the new BoarEd, just derailing every discussion with bad-faith nonsense. We get it already, Trump is your Savior.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:32 am to SquatchDawg
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So overturning the results of an election isn’t insurrection and a threat to democracy?
Fraudulent elections, No.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:32 am to CarrolltonTiger
quote:’fraudulent’ in this instance meaning ‘democratically electing someone we can’t buy off’
Fraudulent elections, No.
quote:that would never do, because the group who would gain the most from such an arrangement would be the Ukrainian people
Given what we know now Ukraine would have been much better off assuming a neutral position, trying to reconcile their pro and anti Russian factions and becoming the trade hub between European and Russian interests.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:48 pm to Jjdoc
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Ok.. So the majority here believe we did help and was involved.
Yes. We sent "fact-finding missions" to arrange the grift channel, then used state department and CIA influence to set things up to make grift easy.
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This is why we are paying them. Right?
No. We are paying them because the channels were set up to get a relatively high percentage back to the politicians in the US. This is not about long term world peace or strengthening Western influence - this is about lining pockets.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:51 pm to Jjdoc
I've linked some pieces laying out the meddling in Ukraine by the US and to some extent the EU...I think most people understand what's being spewed by the Gaslight Media to drum up support for Ukraine is 100% propaganda. 
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:45 pm to texas tortilla
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his whole ukraine war is nothing more than an american exercise to bring about regime change in russia. they want putin gone so they can put in their people and assume contro
So we tricked Putin into invading Ukraine so we could force regime change?
I would have thought Putin was smarter than that.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:50 pm to Jjdoc
Mineral reserves.
Almost every war ever has been about 2 things:
Minerals
Strategic positioning for future minerals
Almost every war ever has been about 2 things:
Minerals
Strategic positioning for future minerals
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:53 pm to thermal9221
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Mineral reserves. Almost every war ever has been about 2 things: Minerals Strategic positioning for future minerals
Meh.
I’ve read a hundred times that this was the reason we went to Afghanistan, including the wonderful news that there was a $ trillion$ in minerals that we wanted.
Funny that I never saw any proof of that
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:08 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
Numerous threads have been posted here that have established a coup in Ukraine - Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls, calling the shots. Since the globetrotting war enterprise really got started, Nuland has been in every administration except one - Trump's.
This is correct.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:10 pm to notiger1997
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Funny that I never saw any proof of that
The day after we evacuated Afghanistan Chinese govt was there to discuss lithium mining operations.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:17 pm to thermal9221
Why didn’t we mine the lithium? If so, which companies were doing it?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:40 pm to notiger1997
I don’t know if we did or not. But if we didn’t, we blew a huge opportunity to do so.
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