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re: Let’s talk about the electoral college

Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1275 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
So all states divide their electoral by the percentage each party gets, like Maine does now. That makes turnout more meaningful and each person voting knows his vote matters.
I’d rather have a percentage of California, Illinois , New York and other than nothing.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
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It just seems fair, in a national election, one person = one vote

Thankfully, our Founding Fathers employed ACTUAL logic in deciding this ever-so-important issue!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67656 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
Get rid of the winner take all laws. You won't even need a constitutional amendment.
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2378 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
If you want to send a damn message every vote counts . I don’t give a damn where you live . Vote and send the message loud and clear .
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:05 pm to
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Why campaign outside of Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania?
Why campaign outside of NYC, LA, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.?

Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:06 pm to
There are unique issues that affect people from each state. Without the electoral college, only urban issues would be addressed, since the majority of people live in urban centers.

The electoral college ensures that even the smaller states have issues that are addressed.

BTW for those who might say "but some states will always vote the same" -- in the past 60 years every single state in the union has voted both Democratic and Republican in one election or another
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:07 pm to
It’s disproportionate due to every state getting 2 senators.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10239 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:07 pm to
It is one person one vote . That is how a state gathers figures and determine who the state votes for and sends that vote in . As different states get more electoral votes than others because of their population size those states carry an advantage over the smaller ones . You could argue why don’t the smaller states don’t get equal representation as the larger ones with that one vote theory you hold . Then they would never be another demrat President
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131250 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:07 pm to
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It just seems fair, in a national election, one person = one vote


it seems like you have a rather elementary understanding of how a republic works.

where do you live?

Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2367 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:08 pm to
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I know the general vote usually goes to democrats so most on this board won’t like this.
We likely won't give a frick one way or the other because the national popular vote is meaningless.

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But I honestly think some of that is people that live in certain states don’t vote bc they know the outcome anyway. Unless you live in 1 of about 7 states, your presidential vote doesn’t mean anything.
And getting rid of the electoral college will somehow fix that? Dafukouttahere.

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But in a national election, it should be one person=one vote, regardless of what state you live in, who the president is affects us all equally.
Yeah, so we can live in a system where Los Angeles and New York City decides who wins every election. Brilliant!
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:09 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:08 pm to
Bc every person voting carries the same weight, if you think a vote in Louisiana and a vote in Ohio are equal, idk what to tell you.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11804 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:10 pm to
I know states rights have been shite on for a century+ but this and the senate are one of the last remaining state powers in our REPUBLIC.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131250 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:10 pm to
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It’s disproportionate due to every state getting 2 senators.


did you know there are two houses in congress?

seriously, have you ever taken a civics class?

you sound like me when I was 10.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:10 pm to
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It just seems fair, in a national election, one person = one vote
our nation would not exist without the electoral college. It was a check for small states to keep large population centers from swallowing them up. Without this concession, the smaller states in the 13 colonies don’t agree, and our nation potentially looks radically different


The electoral college is not some throw in to the constitution. It’s a foundation protection for small states against cities and applies the same today as it did 250 years ago. If you want to remove this brilliance, it’ll require a constitutional amendment
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:10 pm to
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But in a national election, it should be one person=one vote, regardless of what state you live in, who the president is affects us all equally.
Nope. Voters in small states would have ZERO representation. Try again.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32211 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:11 pm to
Trump won 2800 counties out of 3100 total in 2016 but lost the national popular vote. Why would you want 10% of the population centers decide a national election?
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2367 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:11 pm to
Because Ohio's vote carries a little more power than Louisiana, you'd weaken the voting power of BOTH states to near zero. If you think that's a good idea, idk what to tell you either.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:12 pm to
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It’s disproportionate due to every state getting 2 senators.

Good grief. That's a feature not a bug. With the far, far, greater urbanization we have today compared to the founding, we need higher equal representation component in our government, not less.
Posted by AGreySlate
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2018
846 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:12 pm to
Have you ever looked into tyranny of the majority?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:12 pm to
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Trump won 2800 counties out of 3100 total in 2016 but lost the national popular vote. Why would you want 10% of the population centers decide a national election?

Like, to make everyone's vote count, duh.
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