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re: Let’s talk about the electoral college

Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
130902 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

if you think a vote in Louisiana and a vote in Ohio are equal, idk what to tell you.


your vote counts the same in Louisiana as a person in Akron's vote counts in Ohio.

In your simple democracy scenario, a Louisiana vote would never count.

Ask your parents to explain it to you.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68236 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:13 pm to
Ehh look at California cities, those people shouldn't get to completely dictate me living in a state of 4 million.

Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:14 pm to
How does everybody feel about doing away with “electors”

Maybe I’m missing something basic but wouldn’t it be wiser to award the electoral points to a candidate for winning the majority of the votes in a state without the electors participating at all. That’s the part I’ve always found disturbing that is rarely discussed.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71948 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:14 pm to
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Trump won 2800 counties out of 3100 total in 2016 but lost the national popular vote. Why would you want 10% of the population centers decide a national election?

This.

Why should 300 counties decide for the rest of the nation?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29576 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:15 pm to
You think it’s “one person, one vote” but the reality is that large groups of people tend to vote in unison. Interesting that the founding fathers knew the danger of a monolithic group of people that could wield unbalanced power.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:19 pm to
Would it not be one person = one vote? If you live in Los Angeles or BME your vote would count as 1
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
130902 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Maybe I’m missing something basic but wouldn’t it be wiser to award the electoral points to a candidate for winning the majority of the votes in a state without the electors participating at all.


pomp and circumstance.

but yea, it's scary that an elector could in theory go rogue and vote against his constituents.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5695 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:23 pm to
Say the words United...States... of America really slowly. We’re not America. Like Bulgaria or Lebanon or Peru.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:23 pm to
Back at ya. What a fricking echo chamber this place is. Low IQ indeed
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:23 pm to
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but yea, it's scary that an elector could in theory go rogue and vote against his constituents.


Right. Obviously this would be illegal and difficult to do. But theoretically an incredibly rich person only needs to bribe the correct 270 people to become the most powerful human.

That’s beyond fricked up IMO
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
980 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:24 pm to
Do away with, only a few different states will decide elections.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:25 pm to
Name one thing you deviate from as far the the Fox News/ republican narrative... think maybe you aren’t thinking for yourself?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28582 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:26 pm to
We are not a pure democracy.

Electoral college is essential to avoid mob rule and emotional sentiment winning elections.

No electoral college gives 100% of the power to our medias.

No fricking thanks.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18643 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:27 pm to
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Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
64889 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:28 pm to
I don't watch Fox News. I don't even have a TV.

I don't need them to understand Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2 and 3 while you say some "one person, one vote" good vibes garbage.

Why don't you learn about the country you live in?
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9955 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:29 pm to
That doesnt work, because then a state like Califorina can with "outside influences" Get people to come live in their state and make their populace more numerous while taking from the rest.

At that point, A couple of state hold power over the rest of the country. People in New York and Cali would get to dictate how people in Louisiana, Texas, Kansas and most of middle America to live.

I was young and stupid once, not understanding the founding father genius and was for popular voting. Now I realized, because they did that, they prevent a British Empire situation. The seat of government ruling from afar and they getting taxes without representation.

By making it popular, the power of each Senator from the other 45 remaining state is diminished greatly.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:33 pm to
How do other countries that don’t have an electoral college get along? Maybe it’s y’all that need to take a civics class. Good to know mynanmar and Estonia have electoral colleges.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

It just seems fair, in a national election, one person = one vote


You've said this 3 times in the first page and it's been explained at least twice in the replies. If it doesn't make sense to you already then it won't make sense. Stop reminding everyone that you're simple.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:35 pm to

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you're not even addressing the downsides of dropping the electoral college

if you want a debate, actually debate


Too low iq. Malfunctions after “one person=one vote”

fricking dumbass has absolutely zero understanding of the EC and wants to change it because her “team” is losing. These people are sick.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2366 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

How do other countries that don’t have an electoral college get along?
Who gives a frick? Pack your shite and move to one of them if it makes you happy.
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