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Let's talk about angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) and COVID.

Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:00 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:00 am
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Researchers have used cryogenic electron microscopy to show that coronaviruses enter human cells through an interaction with angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2).


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OVID-19 has been shown to bind to ACE2 via the S protein on its surface.


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So no ACE2 with COVID, no infection.


I'm pretty sure the ACE2 allele is much more prevalent in Asian populations versus African and European populations. Anyone have a source for these numbers?

The point is infection and fatality rates should be much different between ethnicity based on the prevalence of this enzyme within an ethnic population.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:01 am to
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The point is infection and fatality rates should be much different between ethnicity based on the prevalence of this enzyme within an ethnic population.

The party of science will call this racist
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:02 am to
Smoking and some drugs increase ACE2 expression, too
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12115 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:03 am to
Which drugs?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:04 am to
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Smoking and some drugs increase ACE2 expression, too



And it's being reported that smoking is a major risk factor.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24544 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:04 am to
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COVID


Wuhan
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5693 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:05 am to
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I'm pretty sure the ACE2 allele is much more prevalent in Asian populations versus African and European population
Care to explain why this is hitting Italy so hard?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:06 am to
ACEi like lisinopril. Those patients are doing worse. Patients taking ARBs like losartan seem to do better since they actually block the receptor
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:06 am to
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Care to explain why this is hitting Italy so hard?


I thought of this question too. My quick non researched answer, open borders.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18861 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:08 am to
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Care to explain why this is hitting Italy so hard?



Similar noodle consumption rates.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:08 am to
I think they smoke a lot more than us too
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:11 am to
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Care to explain why this is hitting Italy so hard?

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Since the 1980s, Lombardy has become the destination of a large number of international migrants, insomuch that today more than a quarter of all foreign-born residents in Italy lives in this region. As of 2016, the Italian national institute of statistics (ISTAT) estimated that 1,139,430 foreign-born immigrants live in Lombardy, equal to 11.4% of the total population.

1.5% of the population of Milan are Chinese
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18861 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:16 am to
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I'm pretty sure the ACE2 allele is much more prevalent in Asian populations versus African and European populations.


This really is interesting. Is it more prevalent in some Chinese than in Koreans?
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:17 am to
Italy has highest % of elderly people of any country of the world-23% over 65.The average age of those who have died is 81.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2100 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:18 am to
What is the breakdown on the USA of corona virus deaths (around 40 currently) based on:
-age
-sex
-ethnicity
-smoking

This would be good to know
Posted by 0jersey
Paradise
Member since Sep 2006
1838 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:19 am to
No one has no ACE-2.

Asians are more likely to have the genetic variant that allows for production of high numbers of ACE-2.

Not all Genes in the DNA get fully expressed, some do, and some genes can be completely off.

The environment is responsible for most of what the DNA coding will allow to be expressed.

Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:33 am to
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I'm pretty sure the ACE2 allele is much more prevalent in Asian populations versus African and European populations. Anyone have a source for these numbers?


Sounds like a good indicator that there was an uprising put to rest with this virus...
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30198 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:34 am to
I sold an ACE inhibitor as well as an ARB.


Racist?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:37 am to
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What is the breakdown on the USA of corona virus deaths (around 40 currently) based on:
-age
-sex
-ethnicity
-smoking


IDK.

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This would be good to know


Yes it would. The more info the better. The run on TP would probably stop.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:39 am to
ACE II is not inhibited by ACEi.

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