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Let's discuss: Student shames Economics teacher/football coach

Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:37 am
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TikTok creator @fryguy124 thought he was signing up for economics class but instead, he finds himself doing chores for the football team.

“So, I always wondered why Americans lack understanding on economics, and then I got to high school economics class,” he says in the video. “I’m supposed to be in economics class right now but I’m out here shuttling shite for the football team.”





Its not uncommon for high school coaches to teach social studies/including economics. I am convinced the school referenced above is not an isolated incident. Which begs a deeper question - high school kids are only required a 1/2 Carnegie unit of economics, and if a decent percentage of them are stuck with a teacher that doesn't understand or teach economics - is this a key reason that the average American doesn't understand basic economics?
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:39 am to
I trust football coaches more than teachers to be fair
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:39 am to
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is this a key reason that the average American doesn't understand basic economics?
Eh, maybe.

But then again, AOC is degreed in Econ and she's a functional retard.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:39 am to
Better than some homo railing on about how great communism is
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:43 am to
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Which begs a deeper question - high school kids are only required a 1/2 Carnegie unit of economics, and if a decent percentage of them are stuck with a teacher that doesn't understand or teach economics - is this a key reason that the average American doesn't understand basic economics?


What does it mean to understand economics though? What is the bar we are using?

If its just basic concepts like supply and demand, I would argue around half if not most people understand that much.

If we are talking about the ability to analyze a supply chain in detail to determine potential weak points, bottlenecks, etc, how interest rates work, how taxes and tax rates work, etc then I would bet less than 10% truly understand it.

And then once we figure that out, we have to determine what really is important for people to know. Overall, I do think we have a need for more financial and economic literacy in this country.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35041 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:43 am to
I know a devout socialist who is student teaching in Baton Rouge who has flat out admitted that she doesn’t know or understand anything economics related but is adamant that the minimum wage should be a livable wage (more than 15 an hour) and if you can’t afford to pay that you don’t deserve to own a business. She is in favor of the government taking over the social media sites and believes that internet should be free in addition to college for everyone.

She will graduate. She will teach. She will be an activist.

She also, of course, blames white men and colonialism for all of the worlds problems
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:44 am to
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“So, I always wondered why Americans lack understanding on economics, and then I got to high school economics class,”


Among extracurricular activities football probably has the biggest economic impact to the school's bottom line.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:44 am to
Isn't this a decent example of supply and demand? There was a demand for a gopher for the football coach, so the coach supplied one.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:45 am to
Well if this is in Ark., based on the hoodie he's wearing, I believe him. My stepson graduated high school back in '93. He never had homework. I asked him why. He said the teachers taught for only 30 minutes and let them do their homework the remainder of the time in case they had questions. So basically he was getting half an education.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:47 am to
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I know a devout socialist who is student teaching in Baton Rouge who has flat out admitted that she doesn’t know or understand anything economics related but is adamant that the minimum wage should be a livable wage (more than 15 an hour) and if you can’t afford to pay that you don’t deserve to own a business. She is in favor of the government taking over the social media sites and believes that internet should be free in addition to college for everyone.



A lot of campus socialists understand economics well enough, but confuse "X SHOULD happen" with "X is actually possible" or "X can happen with no consequences". Thats the real big issue with them. They know what happening, but just assume everyone will buy in and not abuse the system, or that the money required for whatever it is will just come out of thin air, etc
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:47 am to
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I trust football coaches more than teachers to be fair


My high school football coach thought if you see the moon during daylight then it's Saturn. Plus, he made the prettiest girls sit on the front row.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:49 am to
There was a demand for his labor. He supplied it. Lesson learned.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21788 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:49 am to
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What does it mean to understand economics though? What is the bar we are using?

If its just basic concepts like supply and demand, I would argue around half if not most people understand that much.

If we are talking about the ability to analyze a supply chain in detail to determine potential weak points, bottlenecks, etc, how interest rates work, how taxes and tax rates work, etc then I would bet less than 10% truly understand it.



Economics In One Lesson is all the average person needs, and it should be required reading in high school.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:51 am to
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A lot of campus socialists


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the money required


Socialism does not require money.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:53 am to
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is this a key reason that the average American doesn't understand basic economics?



No. I taught Economics for 20 years. The majority of people are just too dumb to understand simple economic concepts. Sadly that's just the truth
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:56 am to
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Socialism does not require money.


Find me a large socialist country that didn't have a currency. Not requiring it in theory and not actually having it in practice are two different things.

For their programs to actually happen, large sums of money are required unless we all at once completely disconnect from rest of the world, give everyone jobs within our newly isolated economy, and ration/distribute everything to everyone.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:57 am to
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I taught Economics for 20 years
What was your method of teaching the law of diminishing return? I'll tell you my Econ professor in graduate school's method of explaining. It stuck with after all of these years.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:58 am to
The kid's 100% correct. He seems to be one of the rare youngsters who takes his/her education seriously.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45772 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:59 am to
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Among extracurricular activities football probably has the biggest economic impact to the school's bottom line.
Twice this year, kids came by selling coupons to local businesses for $25 a card to raise money for the football team. I told them I wasn't interested, but that I had four cars, clean micro-fiber cloths, buckets a hose and some car wash liquid. Told them to come back with their football buddies, wash and dry all my cars, and I'd make a donation of $100. I mean I can just go to the car wash for $7 and they offer free towels and vacuums. I thought I was being generous.

Both times the kids just shook their heads and left. Kids don't have any concept of how to raise money without some adult sticking some piece of crap in their hands and telling them they are responsible to sell X amount.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12072 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 11:02 am to
I know people who took econ in College, several levels of economics and related electives.


These same people still think democratic socialism is not socialism, and that adding a bunch of externalities to markets will have a positive effect.

Its like they live in a parallel universe where down is up.

Highschool econ aint gonna help people who think The Young Turks is the most unbiased news source available.
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