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Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:31 am to 4cubbies
The capital defense orgs?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:33 am to Jake88
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How many are, how many arent.
I’ve only seen two personally, and both were between 1 and 1.2 and took several years. The second one was particularly a waste of time and money because Kennedy v Louisiana came down in the middle of the appeals and took the death penalty off the table
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How often are capital cases brought to trial?
Can’t speak to that honestly, I’m only familiar with a handful of parishes. Those may have one every five years between them. If that. BR or Orleans or Caddo may have more on average.
The smaller parishes have all but abandoned capital cases entirely
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:39 am to Indefatigable
quote:How did you find this number? What is included in the number?
I’ve only seen two personally, and both were between 1 and 1.2
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:43 am to Jake88
Yep.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:54 am to No Colors
Life without parole removes the danger from society and is less costly. And wrongful convictions(there are some) can be reversed…
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:55 am to Jake88
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How did you find this number? What is included in the number?
It’s been years, but I was tangentially involved on one of the appeals and saw it myself. It’s the things I mentioned earlier. The DA had one forensic expert that alone cost like 150-200k between his investigation and paying to have him in town for a two week trial.
ETA: I was also one of those expenses in that one
though it wasn’t even a tenth of the expert number. Ultimately I can’t itemize it for you—just saying that I know it sounds impossible, but those numbers aren’t completely pulled out of thin air for costs of capital cases. It’s an enormous if not the single largest reason why no one does it anymore.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 9:58 am
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:07 am to VOR
quote:What? John Bel Edwards commuted the sentences of 40 murderers sentenced to life without parole.
Life without parole removes the danger from society and is less costly.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:10 am to Indefatigable
Going back to what I originally responded to, is someone being sentenced to death vastly more costly than having a trial that results in life without parole? Cost of trial vs trial and housing someone for say 25 years until sentence is carried out or housing someone for 50+ years and taking care of their medical issues as they age?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:20 am to OccamsStubble
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what about just one
Murder weapon, intent and eye witness.
Yes.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:39 am to teke184
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unusual
Ive always struggled with this.
There's nothing unusual about a lethal injection, a gun-based execution, nor an electric chair. Cruel can be argued for any of those, but if we want "the usual" we can go back to the noose
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:20 am to Lutcher Lad
Rope is cheap and trees are free. Game on
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:25 am to CoachChappy
Strip their citizenship and offer them a plane ride to Africa, Ukraine, etc, or some other 3rd world country that we hate, agreeing to never return on US soil, or face immediate hanging.
Problem solved. 100s of millions saved. Then start filling em back up.
90+% would take the deal
Problem solved. 100s of millions saved. Then start filling em back up.
90+% would take the deal
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:32 am to ChatGPT of LA
Antoinette Frank still breathes Louisiana air... and she perpetrated her heinous crime in 1995
I don't remember what year she was convicted & sentenced but she was arrested not long after her crime b/c she was an idiot & returned to the scene of the crime under the guise of trying to help the investigation
I don't remember what year she was convicted & sentenced but she was arrested not long after her crime b/c she was an idiot & returned to the scene of the crime under the guise of trying to help the investigation
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:36 am to billjamin
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Is it more than housing, food, medical etc for the rest of their life?
yes it is. You also have to consider that the govt. would likely foot the bill for food housing, medical etc. for the majority of those in prison regardless
Posted on 6/28/26 at 12:00 pm to Lutcher Lad
It would be a shame if someone's commissary got a go fund me donation and someone else disappeared from the population.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 12:10 pm to teke184
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Sounds like it is time to move to firing squads and/or hangings. Or hanging in front of a firing squad.
It seems like this stuff was really efficient in the 1800s, you were found guilty, then hung shortly thereafter. We need to revert to the mean.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:40 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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Murder weapon, intent and eye witness. Yes.
What if the eyewitness confirms the murder weapon. Intent is clearly robbery.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:42 pm to Jake88
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Hmm. Which ones are you thinking in particular?
This article is a few years old but it has some details.
LINK
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The Louisiana Public Defender Board outsources most of the state’s capital defense to five nonprofit organizations with attorneys who specialize in death penalty defense. Four of them – Louisiana Crisis Assistance Center, Capital Post-Conviction Project of Louisiana, Baton Rouge Capital Conflict, Inc. and the Capital Appeals Project – were among the top 10 most expensive legal contracts in all of state government in the last budget cycle, according to a state report on government contracts.
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The $7.7 million spent last year covered initial trials, appeals and post-conviction legal challenges. It also includes approximately $195,000 for expert witnesses and extra funding to the public defender’s office in Jefferson Parish, which handles some of its own capital cases, according to State Public Defender Rémy Voisin Starns.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/28/26 at 2:47 pm to FooManChoo
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From the Old Testament to the New, the death penalty for certain crimes was expected.
Your answer will always be the same but try the New Testament.
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